Wessler

[TheAsianSensation]

I still think Michigan will get a bid if they finish .500 in conference or get to 20 wins.

Id bet you a beer that the SEC gets a 6th.

Of course there is a long ways to go and conference tourney's but my gut says 6 for the SEC and 7 for the Big Ten.

The SEC is not getting 6 teams in. I'd bet you 5,820 beers on that.

Michigan can play their way in, easily.

[OrangeandBlack74]

There's been a lot of discussion about who belongs in or out, but not much about the process.

I only glanced at it briefly this morning in the print edition of the PJS, but didn't Wessler's article mention different factors that are used in the decision-making process, including Sagarin?

[real fan]

So you think a team that has lost more games the last 2 months deserves to play in the best tour? to me it doesn"t make any sense.

[ph]

So you think a team that has lost more games the last 2 months deserves to play in the best tour? to me it doesn"t make any sense.

It is theoretically possible for the 32nd best team in the nation to have a 0-31 record becase they lost to all of the 31 better teams.... Although that resume would not prove they are better than any lower teams..

[pfunk880]

Davis will probably be right all atlarge bids will go BCS. Unless someone besides Butler wins the Horizon and someone besides Gonzaga wins the WCC. Utah State better hope they win the WAC tourney because if they dont they will not get an atlarge. It could be interesting if both Siena and Niagra win out and meet in the MAAC and if Niagra were to win the conference tourney if Siena would get a consideration.

The A-10 will get two teams in.

[TheAsianSensation]

I have seen the BCS bias do even worse...
once the top rated team in the Top 25 lost to an unranked team and still stayed in 1st place via the biased voters!

I remember this happened with Illinois in 2005. Lost to Ohio State (they were postseason and poll-ineligible). That was the season where it was Illinois, North Carolina, and everyone else several tiers below.

[TheAsianSensation]

So you think a team that has lost more games the last 2 months deserves to play in the best tour? to me it doesn"t make any sense.

Well, it depends who you lose to.

Using a smaller sample size as an example, would 2-3 in your last 5, with the 3 losses coming in the final minute to Dook, UNC, and Wake, be better than 4-1 in your last 5 with 2 of the wins being against Virginia, one against Georgia Tech, and one against NC State?

Of course this is all hypothetical, but to immediately throw out a 7-9 or 8-10 campaign is a little too harsh. You're not going to be sending many, if any, of these teams anyways.

[Tulsa Brave]

The A-10 will get two teams in.

Either Dayton or Xavier would have to fall flat on their face down the stretch to miss out.

[jasonpeoria911]

Something that would be interesting to see is to have a 64 team play in round for the 32 "at large" spots. If you win that game then you get in, if you don't win then obviously you don't belong in the tourney for the long haul. Then seed the play in teams by the teams resume strength. Lot of pros and cons to both scenarios but it would be neat to see.

Jason

[ph]

Something that would be interesting to see is to have a 64 team play in round for the 32 "at large" spots. If you win that game then you get in, if you don't win then obviously you don't belong in the tourney for the long haul. Then seed the play in teams by the teams resume strength. Lot of pros and cons to both scenarios but it would be neat to see.

Jason

Interesting, but the only way that could be close to implemented would be BCS auto bids + top25, then every other auto-bid or at-large goes in the play-in. No way would the BCS want to subject too most of their teams to missing the "big dance"...

[tornado]

For those interested, we have a little more interesting discussion about Kirk Wessler going on here......

http://www.bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=11295