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  • #16
    Originally posted by Double D View Post
    The only issue I have with guys like Higgins and Sanzere is that in a effort to "let things go" they call NOTHING. In the process the shooter gets destroyed around the basket.

    What does it have to be either one way or the other?
    Sanzere, that's him. They do let a lot go, but the games are soooo much more enjoyable to watch when those guys ref. I'll take them any game. I don't know why it has to be either one way or the other, but it just seems to work out like that. I just like it that those two don't get rattled and caught up in the excitement and stay consistent, and are not fooled by flops. Those guys last night were so inconsistent.

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    • #17
      Originally posted by AE Braves Fan View Post
      The charge foul is out of control.


      But really, it's called way too often. They need to make it a point of emphasis to NOT REWARD FLOPPING. It's ruining the game.

      I'm going to take the opposing view. I have NO problem with charging calls. If the call is out of control it's probably because today's players play out of control and rely on their athleticism instead of good, solid, fundamental basketball. The easiest way to avoid the charging call is to stop driving recklessly down the lane like a "bull in a china shop". Stop, pull up and shoot or pass to an open teammate. Problem solved.

      Now, if a player on defense flops he should be given one warning and then called for a technical foul the next time he flops. That's the way I was taught and I used to love and relish in taking the charge (when you lack in talent you've got to excel somewhere ).

      I think the real issue is poor officiating. If you want professional officiating you need to pay the official a fair wage. College athletics generates millions of dollars annually; spend more to get good FULL TIME officials who don't do it as just a hobby to make a little extra money.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
        I'm going to take the opposing view. I have NO problem with charging calls. If the call is out of control it's probably because today's players play out of control and rely on their athleticism instead of good, solid, fundamental basketball. The easiest way to avoid the charging call is to stop driving recklessly down the lane like a "bull in a china shop". Stop, pull up and shoot or pass to an open teammate. Problem solved.

        Now, if a player on defense flops he should be given one warning and then called for a technical foul the next time he flops. That's the way I was taught and I used to love and relish in taking the charge (when you lack in talent you've got to excel somewhere ).
        That is a good point. I would always take charges too. Or at least try
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        • #19
          Originally posted by Rusty 54 View Post
          That is a good point. I would always take charges too. Or at least try
          When someone tried to take a charge on me they usually got an extra elbow in the face just for the effort...

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          • #20
            Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
            I'm going to take the opposing view. I have NO problem with charging calls. If the call is out of control it's probably because today's players play out of control and rely on their athleticism instead of good, solid, fundamental basketball. The easiest way to avoid the charging call is to stop driving recklessly down the lane like a "bull in a china shop". Stop, pull up and shoot or pass to an open teammate. Problem solved.

            Now, if a player on defense flops he should be given one warning and then called for a technical foul the next time he flops. That's the way I was taught and I used to love and relish in taking the charge (when you lack in talent you've got to excel somewhere ).

            I think the real issue is poor officiating. If you want professional officiating you need to pay the official a fair wage. College athletics generates millions of dollars annually; spend more to get good FULL TIME officials who don't do it as just a hobby to make a little extra money.
            I'm not sure I agree. There should be a no-charge zone under the basket. You're not playing D when you're standing under the basket. This is one NBA rule I like.
            My sports blog.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Braves4Life View Post
              I'm going to take the opposing view. I have NO problem with charging calls. If the call is out of control it's probably because today's players play out of control and rely on their athleticism instead of good, solid, fundamental basketball. The easiest way to avoid the charging call is to stop driving recklessly down the lane like a "bull in a china shop". Stop, pull up and shoot or pass to an open teammate. Problem solved.

              Now, if a player on defense flops he should be given one warning and then called for a technical foul the next time he flops. That's the way I was taught and I used to love and relish in taking the charge (when you lack in talent you've got to excel somewhere ).

              I think the real issue is poor officiating. If you want professional officiating you need to pay the official a fair wage. College athletics generates millions of dollars annually; spend more to get good FULL TIME officials who don't do it as just a hobby to make a little extra money.
              I remember a game in the Fieldhouse when the ref told Joe Stowell that one more flop by one of our guards, either Frank S or Tom L, I'm not sure which one, and a T would be called. I applauded and the fans around me weren't happy.
              What part of illegal don't you understand?

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              • #22
                I agree that the charging foul is called way too many times but if players today would stop and take that mid-range jumpshot instead of trying to make a layup it would eliminate a lot of those calls.

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                • #23
                  Originally posted by real fan View Post
                  I agree that the charging foul is called way too many times but if players today would stop and take that mid-range jumpshot instead of trying to make a layup it would eliminate a lot of those calls.
                  All these posts and someone finally said it. Too many out of control drives to the basket.
                  What part of illegal don't you understand?

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                  • #24
                    Check out some of these sweet flops...

                    Greg Paulus flops before anyone even gets close to him. (There was no call because they were not ACC refs).

                    A compilation of fainting goats and flopping bitches, followed by a cup of piping hot Green Tea.


                    There are several more youtube video's dedicated to Duke's flopping that and i am having trouble findings...

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by real fan View Post
                      I agree that the charging foul is called way too many times but if players today would stop and take that mid-range jumpshot instead of trying to make a layup it would eliminate a lot of those calls.
                      I'm all for our guys, especially our guards, try to pull up and take thar mid-range jumper. Teams right now are playing us pretty tight around the rim and when our not so tall guards head to the rim there is just not a lot of space to get a shot off.
                      "Educate and inform the whole mass of the people...they are the only sure reliance for the preservation of our liberty."
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                      • #26
                        And my personal favorite... Dukie BS!!!

                        Another example of the wonderful ACC officiating. Josh McRoberts performs a tap dance routine with the ball in his hands and does NOT get called for a trave...

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