Whew...end of game thoughts.

[Rusty 54]

Yeah, that almost cost Memphis a win tonight at Tulsa. Only a buzzer beater helped Memphis escape with a 55-54 win tonight!

We keep shooting FT's like this, we won't have a prayer against the Valley elite this year.

Maybe we are the Valley elite and if we start making our 3's and free throws look out!

[Bradleyguy10]

We are not the elite. We are up there due to a not so tough conference schedule yet. Like said in a different post the 2nd half is the toughest. We are all saying the same thing...drop a few more threes (makes NOT attempts) and the free throws consistently we HAVE this league...we HAVE IT, but the last two games didn't look promising. Hopefully we turn those two aspects around while maintaining the defensive intensity.

[georgethedog]

I don't think DD is a very good 3pt shooter. He may be leading us in percentages, but that is not saying much. To be honest given the choice I say nobody should take a 3 unless its Sammy and he's pretty good and set. DD just doesn't have a pretty shot and it doesn't look like it's made for 3's.

And I never said he wasn't big for us tonight.

Sorry to disagree, but statistically 35.6% for DD on the season equals an expected value of 1.068 points per shot. In order to get that good of an expected value on 2 points shots a player would have to average 53.4%. How many players do we have that average 53.4% on their 2 points shots?

In case you do not understand what I am stating, let's say a person that shoots 35.6% takes 50 3 point shots, that would equal 53.4 points. A person that shots 53.4% for 2 point shots takes 50 shots, that would also equal 53.4 points. Those percentages are equivalents given the different point values for making the shot. (Granted, there is more variability with three point shots in most cases, and more statistical computations would have to be done, but DD at 35.6% is not bad at all).

[ifarania]

I think you broke their brains, Georges le chien.

Maybe you could show more clearly how you multiply a value by a probability to achieve an expected value. I have some strange feeling you may know a thing or two about that.

[Rusty 54]

Whatever the % is, DD's shot does not look good from a pure shooting standpoint IMHO. Jeremy Crouch, Andrew Warren, pretty shots. DD's seems more like a push. But if it goes in, it goes in. And because I know so much more about Dodie's shot then he does

[Bradleyguy10]

Sorry to disagree, but statistically 35.6% for DD on the season equals an expected value of 1.068 points per shot. In order to get that good of an expected value on 2 points shots a player would have to average 53.4%. How many players do we have that average 53.4% on their 2 points shots?

In case you do not understand what I am stating, let's say a person that shoots 35.6% takes 50 3 point shots, that would equal 53.4 points. A person that shots 53.4% for 2 point shots takes 50 shots, that would also equal 53.4 points. Those percentages are equivalents given the different point values for making the shot. (Granted, there is more variability with three point shots in most cases, and more statistical computations would have to be done, but DD at 35.6% is not bad at all).

I understand what you are saying. But you are completely ignoring the most important part of my last post. I know he has a high percentage right now. I know some would say it's a big enough sample size..and they are right it is. However, I get the feeling it has been a bit of luck, an aberration of sorts. I say again if he continues to shoot too many 3's in a game I think his true percentages will come to light. All I can say is his shot doesn't look pretty and when a shot doesn't look mechanically right in general in catches up with you and I think it will catch up with him. I say stop while he's ahead. If not and he continues to shoot 5+ threes a game I think his percentage will be significantly lower by the end of the season and thereby making his two point shots more valuable per shot.

[ser_solace]

I say stop while he's ahead.

How about Dodie Dunson stops shooting 3's when he's NOT ahead? If it's working now, let him continue shooting. Worry about the other scenario when it becomes prevalent.

Heh. Shawn Marion in the NBA has the strangest shooting motion ever. Someone described him looking like a praying mantis when he launches the ball. Yet it often goes in.

[georgethedog]

I don't care what it looks like as long as it goes in. Del Curry had one of the strangest shots in NBA history and is also one of it's most prolific 3 point shooters ever. Mitchell Anderson had a very strange looking shot... DD's shot may look like a little push shot, but he keeps his elbow in and is consistent with his form, both important features of any shot. We shall see by the end of the year, but my bet is he stays about the same % give or take a percent and that is plenty for him to take 3-5 per game.

[Bradleyguy10]

Fair enough. I hope he gets better. We need someone to.

[bluedevils1]

I don't care what it looks like as long as it goes in. Del Curry had one of the strangest shots in NBA history and is also one of it's most prolific 3 point shooters ever. Mitchell Anderson had a very strange looking shot... DD's shot may look like a little push shot, but he keeps his elbow in and is consistent with his form, both important features of any shot. We shall see by the end of the year, but my bet is he stays about the same % give or take a percent and that is plenty for him to take 3-5 per game.

Also, Kevin Martin of the Sacramento Kings has one of the most disgusting shots ever, but it goes in.