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    Jerry Palm runs the site at collegerpi.com.

    His first bracket is up, but comments say a lot:

    "Unlike later brackets, this is as much feel as anything. RPI is more meaningless than ever. Conference standings are useless, except to pick the automatic qualifiers. Poll rankings get a lot more weight. As much as anything, this is just to get us looking at brackets again.

    One thing that may very well be the same in March is that the Big East could put nine teams in the field. That would be a record, but when you consider the size of the conference, it's really not that big a number.
    Another thing we may see is a paucity of at-large bids from the non-majors. This bracket only has three, and at this point, there really aren't an overwhelming number of at-large candidates out there from the non-majors. The Valley is down, as are Gonzaga, Memphis and Davidson. The only non-majors in the rankings at the moment are Butler, Xavier and in the coaches' poll, St. Mary's. There may not be a lot of bid stealing this year because there may not be a lot of bids to steal."

    His bracket has Bradley as the lone MVC team currently in as a 14 seed against Texas (funny - other 14 seeds are VMI, St F Austin and Cornell).

    Conferences with more than one bid:
    9 - Big East
    7 - ACC, Big Ten (UIUC an 8seed vs UNLV in Pitt's bracket)
    5 - Big 12, Pac 10
    4 - SEC
    2 - A10, Mtn West, WCC

    Last 4 in:
    Arizona, Dayton, South Carolina, Washington

    Next 4 left out:
    Kentucky, Maryland, San Diego St, Utah

  • #2
    Originally posted by MacabreMob View Post
    His bracket has Bradley as the lone MVC team currently in as a 14 seed against Texas (funny - other 14 seeds are VMI, St F Austin and Cornell).
    I should mention... I don't think it is "funny" he has Bradley as a 14 seed. I was thinking it was "funny" he thought so lowly of the MVC leader to make them a 14 seed. Surely the MVC leader will get a better seed. Yet understand... I don't always think the 8/9 or 7/10 game is the best spot to be.

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    • #3
      Palm has never been an MVC fan (he's a Purdue alum), so I wouldn't expect any accolades coming from him.
      Onward and Upward!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by BradleyBrave View Post
        Palm has never been an MVC fan (he's a Purdue alum), so I wouldn't expect any accolades coming from him.
        Palm is plain and fair.

        Yes - he is a Purdue alum.

        But he doesn't grind the axe, IMO.

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        • #5
          Originally posted by MacabreMob View Post
          Palm is plain and fair.

          Yes - he is a Purdue alum.

          But he doesn't grind the axe, IMO.
          I couldn't possibly disagree more. I've emailed back and forth with him even when our conference was strong, and he was constantly anti-MVC as a formidable basketball conference.(we had 4 bids that year) He's about as big a BIg10 homer as there is.

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          • #6
            Originally posted by chitown fanatic View Post
            I couldn't possibly disagree more. I've emailed back and forth with him even when our conference was strong, and he was constantly anti-MVC as a formidable basketball conference.(we had 4 bids that year) He's about as big a BIg10 homer as there is.
            Wow. I've emailed back and forth with him over the years as well. I've never gotten "talked down to". He must just like me better.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by MacabreMob View Post
              Jerry Palm runs the site at collegerpi.com.

              His first bracket is up, but comments say a lot:

              "Unlike later brackets, this is as much feel as anything. RPI is more meaningless than ever. Conference standings are useless, except to pick the automatic qualifiers. Poll rankings get a lot more weight. As much as anything, this is just to get us looking at brackets again.

              One thing that may very well be the same in March is that the Big East could put nine teams in the field. That would be a record, but when you consider the size of the conference, it's really not that big a number.
              Another thing we may see is a paucity of at-large bids from the non-majors. This bracket only has three, and at this point, there really aren't an overwhelming number of at-large candidates out there from the non-majors. The Valley is down, as are Gonzaga, Memphis and Davidson. The only non-majors in the rankings at the moment are Butler, Xavier and in the coaches' poll, St. Mary's. There may not be a lot of bid stealing this year because there may not be a lot of bids to steal."

              His bracket has Bradley as the lone MVC team currently in as a 14 seed against Texas (funny - other 14 seeds are VMI, St F Austin and Cornell).

              Conferences with more than one bid:
              9 - Big East
              7 - ACC, Big Ten (UIUC an 8seed vs UNLV in Pitt's bracket)
              5 - Big 12, Pac 10
              4 - SEC
              2 - A10, Mtn West, WCC

              Last 4 in:
              Arizona, Dayton, South Carolina, Washington

              Next 4 left out:
              Kentucky, Maryland, San Diego St, Utah
              If Maryland, Kentucky Washington and Arizona are sniffing the NCAA Tourney then the NCAA fields is very weak this season... all 3 are average, played mostly at home and even then havent won all of those home games they get to play.

              Of course all 3 will make the tourney... nothing to do with team all to do with name.

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              • #8
                I can't remember off the top of my head but I'm sure someone here will...what seed were you guys and WSU the year you both went to the S16?

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                • #9
                  Wasn't he the one guy projecting 6 MVC teams late in the '06 season, before settling on 4?


                  I'd be curious to see who his 13s are.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by Phantom View Post
                    I can't remember off the top of my head but I'm sure someone here will...what seed were you guys and WSU the year you both went to the S16?
                    We were 13, I think WSU was 7.

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                    • #11
                      Originally posted by Phantom View Post
                      I can't remember off the top of my head but I'm sure someone here will...what seed were you guys and WSU the year you both went to the S16?
                      Originally posted by CABUFan View Post
                      We were 13, I think WSU was 7.
                      Wichita St 7
                      UNI 10
                      SIU 11
                      Bradley 13

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                      • #12
                        Originally posted by TheAsianSensation View Post
                        I'd be curious to see who his 13s are.
                        Current Bracket 13's:
                        Long Beach
                        Boise St
                        Weber St
                        Siena

                        12's:
                        Washington
                        Arizona
                        George Mason
                        Miami-Oh

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                        • #13
                          So you made me look it up AS. Here are Palm's 13 seeds.

                          Long Beach from the Big West
                          RPI 98
                          SOS 140
                          Conf RPI 23/21

                          Boise St from the WAC
                          RPI 50
                          SOS 123
                          Conf RPI 15/14

                          Weber St from the Big Sky
                          RPI 94
                          SOS 95
                          Conf RPI 21/23

                          Siena from the Metro-Atlantic
                          RPI 35
                          SOS 26
                          Conf RPI 13/13

                          And then there is us as a 14 seed

                          Bradley from the MVC
                          RPI 59
                          SOS 39
                          Conf RPI 8/8

                          Conference RPI ranks are by Non-Conference games only first followed by Overall games 2nd.

                          Boy... my apologies to Chitown Fanatic.... Palm DOES have a bias against the MVC.

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                          • #14
                            Ok, Palm is off his rocker here. That better be one heck of a procedural bump that sent us to a 14 or we should riot.

                            The only way that isn't insane is if a bunch of 4 seeds are west teams playing in west regionals.

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