Yeah, but I think having an experienced player to lead Thompson and Egolf along is important as well.
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AW to opt for extra year
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Yeah, but I think having an experienced player to lead Thompson and Egolf along is important as well.
I could not disagree with you more with your assessment here. I know that NBA executives are known to take a flier on potential and that is why you saw them take players right after HS. AW though will be a different matter because he will now have 2 full years left to build up his resume which to this point has been very decent but not great. The team's success the next two years will only increase his exposure because he has the chance to become the leader of this team on the court. AW will also now have the chance to develop his body,without stressing it out, to an NBA body which is different then a college player and a year of maturity will never hurt anyone.
I for one believe he made the correct decision for himself, his long-term health and team. The team. with the additions coming in, will just be ridiculous. Recruiting wise I say we should pick up the best shooter we can from the next two classes but I would not turn down a real 5 either. A player that can play with his back to the basket and clear out rebounds like they are going out of style. I really like the depth that JL is building and I'd say the practices should be quite competitive the next few years.
Da Coach
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Agreed- when it comes to midmajor college players, and players who were not Top 50 players in high school, then it is almost unheard of for them to jump to the NBA without playing 4 years in college. Especially if there was a major injury involved during their last 1 or 2 years in college.
So I think AW's development would have been set back a lot by spending the rest of this year, and a whole year out of his career, trying to come back from this injury. It would have been great to have him this year, but if considered in terms of what's best for him, he and his family made the right decision.
So I think AW's development would have been set back a lot by spending the rest of this year, and a whole year out of his career, trying to come back from this injury. It would have been great to have him this year, but if considered in terms of what's best for him, he and his family made the right decision.
houstontxbrave
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If Warren is good enough to play in the NBA then he will, my belief is he isnt, but that is my belief.
I think NBA people like to get a guy who is younger who they can mold and develop rather then a guy who by the time he graduates can be in his early 20's have 4 years of college basketball wear and tear on his body and not to mention a past history of injuries.
Also, two additional years of exposure, can also expose flaws. Playing 4/5 years in college is not a great recipe for playing in the NBA.
houstontxbrave
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Not to start to much about this whole thing but how many actual mid major college players end up getting drafted yearly regardless of whether they stay 1,2,3, or 4 years?
My guess is there probably are less then 5 a year on average who even get drafted. Most mid major players end up stick on an NBA roster as a free agent not through the draft.
An extra year will only help him get ready to impress the scouts to get an invite to the NBA summer camps. He will have time to add the strength needed to compete at this level which I believe he did not posses last year and was going to take all 4 years for him to get there. The extra year will only help him obtain the stamina that may just put him in position to get there. He has all the tools to be an NBA shooting guard,he can shoot, is athletic, silky smooth, plays good D, has long arms and has decent height. I was just waiting to see if he could sustain his game for the whole game and not disappear for stretches like last year. That to me was the only thing missing and that had to do more with mental and physical maturity which I believe he was going to highlight this year that he could play with intensity for the whole game. One extra year will only help.
Dubl R 1
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The wear and tear of college ball is nothing compared to the NBA. 4 years of college ball would result in roughly 130+ plus games. 1 year alone in the NBA with a decent run in the playoffs could take you over 100 games played. I don't think that is as big a concern as overall age of the player.
houstontxbrave
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Ok is obvious I think differently then others when it comes to time in college as a factor for drafting in the NBA.
But if an NBA GM had the choice between a 23 1/2 college player who has played 4 years of college basketbal and a 19 year old with one year... if skill level is equal I bet that the GM will draft that 19 year old.
Warren will be 23 1/2 at the end of the 11 season. That is old by NBA standards.
No offense to Andrew, but I think it is highly unlikely that he going to get picked in the NBA draft...
He will be an outstanding college player and will have numerous opportunities to continue his playing career overseas if he wants to...but the NBA is a whole other animal...and I think Andrew's athleticism (like Jeremy Crouch) is just a tick below what would be needed to make him an NBA draft pick.
He will be an outstanding college player and will have numerous opportunities to continue his playing career overseas if he wants to...but the NBA is a whole other animal...and I think Andrew's athleticism (like Jeremy Crouch) is just a tick below what would be needed to make him an NBA draft pick.
I am still of the opinion that we don't have to use the final scholarship for next season unless we're able to get one of THE players we are REALLY wanting/needing, especially if JW gets cleared to become a Brave. If we do fill that final 2009 scholarship, that will give us four players in the 2013 graduating class and leave us with just one scholarship player for the 2010 recruiting class. I would certainly not be opposed to giving the remaining 2009 scholarship to Ryan Phillips.
it's boogie time
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I doubt the final scholarship would be banked. There's always the standard line of 'we won't take a player just to take a player', but in the end that scholarship gets used. If you really feel like the roster is set at every position, then you can take a flyer on a project.
As far as AW at the next level, we need to see what he has added to his game since last year. He wasn't the primary option on offense his first two years. The hope is that he has developed enough to take over games against the best defender. I think we will find out a lot more next year.
As far as AW at the next level, we need to see what he has added to his game since last year. He wasn't the primary option on offense his first two years. The hope is that he has developed enough to take over games against the best defender. I think we will find out a lot more next year.
The scholarship needs to be filled with a jr. college post player or a 6-4 or bigger off guard , that would give us the opportunity to redshirt someone that may not play much or at all next season. We have to except the fact that Will may not be 100% by next season and AT does not have the experience to just believe he will be good enough to start at center next season.
I was thinking as much! Even if WE is ready by October to practice it will take some time for him to get back to where he was. These injuries usually take over a year of intensive rehab plus the mental game to completely come back. I do not think we need a JUCO though if it is for the off guard postion. I would want a 4 year player for that one.
Can he shoot the 3 from deep and create his own shot? We have 3 young point guards right now and it will be nice to pick up a good one in the 2010 class but not for the next class where a tall athletic shooting guard will be able to have a better chance to contribute quickly. I also feel it would be nice to get a 5 from the JUCO route that can play D and rebound as not to put a lot of pressure on WE and AT or for the matter JP to have to contribute from day one next year. We have a pretty good non-con next year and a big who physically can step up right away will be a nice commodity for us.