Two players quit team at SIU

[cpacmel]

Instead, Lowery actually redshirted two from the year before (Evans & Bocot) which only added to the logjam of 1st year players he has now!

Bocot really didn't redshirt though. I believe his grades didn't allow him to be eligibile.

[tornado]

I know that but when he came in 2007, CLo obviously knew he wouldn't play then and would be a newbie in 2008, thus part of that newcomer class.
Same with Evans.....that's too many kids coming in all at once, just like at IU, it simply doesn't serve you well....they won't win for you and then they get unhappy and leave.

Anyway - what do you make of the Redbirder's comment that he knows Roundtree is coming to ISU??
Is this who your guys want?? A kid who couldn't even keep the starting position and playing time that was handed to him, a kid who'll quit on you when things aren't handed to him?
Anyway -- how you gonna get around the rule that would require him to sit out TWO YEARS for intraconference transfer?

Anyway.....do you guys even have a scholarship?? I thought the last ride was going to Thornton and you still have Shipley & Mishler hoping to get one, and if you yank from someone else to give it to Roundtree, when he isn't even going to help you until late next year or the year after (2010!), what'll that do?

Anyway...just how many 2-guards can a team legally have ..
I think ISU is already 2 over the limit on shooting guards......

[Rusty 54]

I'm going to be kind of heartless on this one. We have been wanting to be one of the top teams in the Valley for a long time. Since I have been here SIU and Creighton have always been at the top. SIU seems to have fallen. And the spot they have held has opened up. Next year we are supposed to be really good. If we take advantage of it, this could be the break our program needs.

[real fan]

Roundtree will end up at SLU or Missouri , too much red tape to go thru in order to play at ISU as I doubt that SIU would ok his transfer to another Valley school. Too many high school stars think that they can come right in and play as freshman in college not realizing what a huge step up it is to play on a good college team.

[Braves4Life]

This could happen to JL but I believe he is purposely recruiting kids that have a team first personality. CL got blinded by all that talent and is hitting a speed bump.

I think JL ran in to some of the same problems with some of the kids he recruited the last two years who left us or were lost for various reasons. He corrected those mistakes and I think will bring BU an MVC Championship within 2 years.

[cpacmel]

Roundtree will end up at SLU or Missouri , too much red tape to go thru in order to play at ISU as I doubt that SIU would ok his transfer to another Valley school. Too many high school stars think that they can come right in and play as freshman in college not realizing what a huge step up it is to play on a good college team.

I doubt he ends up at SLU. Their offense is really no different than SIU's.

Your probably right about a transfer to ISU or another MVC school.

Missouri runs quite a bit. That might be a good spot for him.

[SFP]

Roundtree will have a hard time playing at any decent school I would suspect. He could not crack the line up of a very average team, quit because he was not playing, was not playing probably because he did not want to play D and I cannot imagine a coach with a good team saying, "We need him!"

[real fan]

He chose SIU 1st which leads you to believe he has no idea what type of offense a team might run.

[Da Coach]

Story from Carbondale paper and SIU beat writer-

http://thesouthern.com/articles/2009/01/02/breaking_news/doc495e3f2381de0445135266.txt

And from the SIU student newspaper-

http://media.www.siude.com/media/storage/paper1096/news/2008/12/09/MBasketball/Developing.Story.Roundtree.And.Cornelius.Leave.Siu-3581519.shtml

page 2-

http://media.www.siude.com/media/storage/paper1096/news/2008/12/09/MBasketball/Developing.Story.Roundtree.And.Cornelius.Leave.Siu-3581519-page2.shtml

[it's boogie time]

Interesting to see that Christian Cornelius picked up a degree in Finance in his 3 1/2 years at SIU. Not too shabby.

[tornado]

Here is a quote from Lowery on the players leaving...

On Cornelius...
"At this point in his career (due to injury), he felt he couldn't compete at this high a level," Lowery said."


On Roundtree...
"It's unfortunate we lost a player as talented as Roundtree," Lowery said.
"He's a kid we definitely wanted to see blossom. Unfortunately, we didn't
have enough playing time for everybody on the team. That's part of life.
Sometimes, you have to work for things. Things aren't going to be given to you."

[Out of Bounce]

I think JL ran in to some of the same problems with some of the kids he recruited the last two years who left us or were lost for various reasons. He corrected those mistakes and I think will bring BU an MVC Championship within 2 years.

Two Year Wait after we win this year Come on friend

[Bravesfan]

Wow! What a sad state of affairs over there! A classic case of a coaching losing his team, at least that's the way it appears on the surface.

Oh well. Better for us at least!

[tornado]

Ex-SIU Saluki Torres Roundtree lasted less than a week when he transferred to College of Southern Idaho as he failed a certain "test".

But he has resurfaced and has signed a LOI to play next fall for Olney Community College and will play next year for the same team Ahmad Grant presently plays for.

[BraveDog]

Ex-SIU Saluki Torres Roundtree lasted less than a week when he transferred to College of Southern Idaho as he failed a certain "test".

But he has resurfaced and has signed a LOI to play next fall for Olney Community College and will play next year for the same team Ahmad Grant presently plays for.

Good for him. Does that make him a white Squirrel?