Some good Bradley numbers

[Da Coach]

I am sure some will tear into this, and try to parse the numbers a dozen ways, but here are some numbers that some Bradley fans feel good about and have been able to enjoy in recent years.

In another thread, someone complained that they criticize the team because they just want to see them win and they don't feel they have seen enough winning
Here are the records of all the MVC teams over the previous 3 years 2005-2005 through 2007-2008 )--
BU 65-41
CU 64-32
MSU 61-36
SIU 59-32
UNI 59-37
DU 57-40
WSU 54-43
IlSU 49-45
InSU 41-50
UE 33-57

Notable is that Bradley has more wins over that period than any other team. I hope everyone has had a chance to appreciate some of the wins, and enjoy it. I know a lot of fans, including myself have.

Even if we factor in the records this year, Bradley (6-5) is a close second to Creighton (10-2) in wins over the last 4 seasons.--
CU 74-34
BU 71-46
MSU 68-40
DU 66-43
UNI 65-42
SIU 64-38
IlSU 60-45
WSU 60-48
InSU 43-59
UE 41-59

[tornado]

you have got to be kidding, Coach....
those numbers MUST be wrong!

you're saying that over the previous three seasons...roughtly the time that BradleyFans has been in existence....
that Bradley has MORE wins than any other team in the Valley???
(and probably more postseason appearances, too.....)
No frikkin way..........with all the Debbie-Downers we have this surely cannot be true...Bradley MUST be in the bottom half of the Valley....
is it possible that we are seeing so many downer-posts when this is true??

[Scouter]

I am sure some will tear into this, and try to parse the numbers a dozen ways, but here are some numbers that some Bradley fans feel good about and have been able to enjoy in recent years.

In another thread, someone complained that they criticize the team because they just want to see them win and they don't feel they have seen enough winning
Here are the records of all the MVC teams over the previous 3 years 2005-2005 through 2007-2008 )--
BU 65-41
CU 64-32
MSU 61-36
SIU 59-32
UNI 59-37
DU 57-40
WSU 54-43
IlSU 49-45
InSU 41-50
UE 33-57

Notable is that Bradley has more wins over that period than any other team. I hope everyone has had a chance to appreciate some of the wins, and enjoy it. I know a lot of fans, including myself have.

Even if we factor in the records this year, Bradley (6-5) is a close second to Creighton (10-2) in wins over the last 4 seasons.--
CU 74-34
BU 71-46
MSU 68-40
DU 66-43
UNI 65-42
SIU 64-38
IlSU 60-45
WSU 60-48
InSU 43-59
UE 41-59

Here are the records of all the MVC teams over the previous 3 years 2005-2005 through 2007-2008 )-- with winning percentages
CU 64-32 .667
SIU 59-32 .648
MSU 61-36 .629
UNI 59-37 .615
BU 65-41 .613
DU 57-40 .588
WSU 54-43 .557
IlSU 49-45 .521
InSU 41-50 .451
UE 33-57 .367

Even if we factor in the records this year, Bradley (6-5) is a close second to Creighton (10-2) in wins over the last 4 seasons.-- with winning percentages
CU 74-34 .685
MSU 68-40 .630
SIU 64-38 .627
UNI 65-42 .6074
BU 71-46 .6068
DU 66-43 .6055
IlSU 60-45 .571
WSU 60-48 .556
InSU 43-59 .422
UE 41-59 .410

Now BU is a pretty mediocre fifth in those standings.

[Braveman]

Numbers can be dangerous and when posted- invite others... like these below
And what is the most important number and desired result?

MVC Records & results from 2005-now

SIU 38-16 1-1st, 1 2nd and 1-3rd place in conf. 1 Tourney title
CU 35-19 2-2nd, 1 4th in conference 1 Tourney title
MSU 32-22 2-2nd, 1-7th in conference No titles
BU 30-24 2-5th, 1-4th in conference No titles
UNI 29-25 3-5th in conference No titles
WSU 26-28 1-1st, 1-6th, 1-9th in conf. No titles
DU 26-28 1-1st, 2 7th in conference 1 title
ISU 23-31 1-2nd, 1-7th, 1- 9th in conf. no titles
InSU 17-37 1-7th, 1-9th, 1-10th in conf. No titles
EU 14-40 2-th, 1- 10th in conf. No titles

Decidedly middle of the pack at best.. I for one would like to see a conference championship, or a top 3 finish or a Tourney title....

[SaintLouBrave22]

Factor in that 6 of the 9 teams have finished higher in the standings in one of those given years (some teams multiple years) and I would say that we haven't done as great of a job as you say we have...

The record does mean a lot...at least it isn't bad, but where are the 1st, 2nd, 3rd place finishes...?!

We haven't won a title since what 1996?!

[Bradleyguy10]

DC you walked right into that one. So much so that I almost wonder if you put those figures up just to see who would respond the quickest. OF COURSE someone is going to respond with percentages...you knew that when posting.

Did you put that up just to stir the pot? Answer honestly...

Either that or you really think you can fool a lot of us just with numbers. It's like you think we are 6 year old kids that should agree to whatever stat you put up because we don't know any better...I'm sure you don't think of us that way..I'm just saying what it made me think when I read it. Or you are just stirring the pot...because I doubt even you believe BU has been THE BEST team in the valley for the past 3 years.


I'm literally laughing at this thread. Everyone chomping at the bit to tear down the numbers and you posting it knowing it's going to happen, but we have to post something otherwise it's a dead board. This board is just too funny...so many people this way and that way...never getting along. It's quite entertaining to read. Thank you Mods.

[real fan]

If you want to look at stats then we need to get a lot more production on the offensive end fron EM and CR as they started and scored only 6 points between them; because we are bad defensively we need to at least put a team on the floor that is capable of outscoring our opponents.

[georgethedog]

This is so funny I don't even know where to start, so I won't...

[brocks]

Why would anyone have to disgree with DC that we've had some great times the last few years? Wins over KU and Pitt and Virginia Providence and CU etc. That doesn't mean ALL is well in Ptown. But it sure is true.

In my many years as a BU fan, the last few have been the most fun. And whatever happens this season, something tells me all will be forgiven over the next few.

JL and his youngsters are struggling right now. But these are great kids . . . and people have lost money underestimating Jim Les.

JL has more to prove, to be sure. His record is both good and bad. Welcome to humanity. But the guy is a winner and he's smart. And yes, there have been some GREAT moments with him at the helm. There will be more.

[georgethedog]

Why would anyone have to disgree with DC that we've had some great times the last few years? Wins over KU and Pitt and Virginia Providence and CU etc. That doesn't mean ALL is well in Ptown. But it sure is true.

In my many years as a BU fan, the last few have been the most fun. And whatever happens this season, something tells me all will be forgiven over the next few.

JL and his youngsters are struggling right now. But these are great kids . . . and people have lost money underestimating Jim Les.

JL has more to prove, to be sure. His record is both good and bad. Welcome to humanity. But the guy is a winner and he's smart. And yes, there have been some GREAT moments with him at the helm. There will be more.

I would like to add that it seems to me like Coach Les is missing a couple VERY important assistant coaches that have left recently and were a part of his past successes.

[pfunk880]

That was some quality entertainment. Tornado's post read like something out of an infomercial, and I saw Scouter's response coming from a mile away.

[Da Coach]

Numbers can be dangerous and when posted- invite others... like these below
And what is the most important number and desired result?

MVC Records & results from 2005-now

SIU 38-16 1-1st, 1 2nd and 1-3rd place in conf. 1 Tourney title
CU 35-19 2-2nd, 1 4th in conference 1 Tourney title
MSU 32-22 2-2nd, 1-7th in conference No titles
BU 30-24 2-5th, 1-4th in conference No titles
UNI 29-25 3-5th in conference No titles
WSU 26-28 1-1st, 1-6th, 1-9th in conf. No titles
DU 26-28 1-1st, 2 7th in conference 1 title
ISU 23-31 1-2nd, 1-7th, 1- 9th in conf. no titles
InSU 17-37 1-7th, 1-9th, 1-10th in conf. No titles
EU 14-40 2-th, 1- 10th in conf. No titles

Decidely middle of the pack at best.. I for one would like to see a conference championship, or a top 3 finish or a Tourney title....

"middle of the pack at best"? There are only 3 teams ahead of Bradley, and they include the 2 elite teams in the MVC over the past 10 years, and a team picked to finish last this year. Not bad for a team that has people complaining that they are so terrible!

[Da Coach]

Factor in that 6 of the 9 teams have finished higher in the standings in one of those given years (some teams multiple years) and I would say that we haven't done as great of a job as you say we have...

I did predict that the negnels (my new name for the negative nellies who always look for the worst) will "try to parse the numbers", which is exactly what is happening.

This thread is about wins, which one poster said Bradley doesn't do often enough for him. But the facts show differently. No matter how it is parsed, Bradley has more wins in the last 3 years than any MVC team.

And their 7 post season wins in the last 3 years is roughly equal to all the postseason wins by the other 9 teams combined. But now we will hear from the negnels how meaningless that is!

By the way......What MVC team is the only one that has not made the NCAA tournament in the last 10 years?
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.answer- Illinois State

[Fetz86]

The Sweet 16 year-Awesome
NIT the next year-Great
Last year-Good while we were winning, but we also lost a ton of games too
This year-disappointing, there is no way around that. When a talented team under performs people are going to complain about it, and for good reason. period.

[Bradleyguy10]

and I saw Scouter's response coming from a mile away.

I think everyone did...including DC, and it didn't stop DC from posting it (and rightfully so). Which is why I was laughing when I read this. The first two posts were like the embodiment of this entire board...just too funny.

Edit: I just read the recent DC post. The post-season comment is right on. However just as the devil's advocate most of ours is from the CBI..which I know everyone knows about. People can interpret the post season how they want...depending on how they view the CBI. And I love the trivia question. Another trivia question: What's the best way to get people together and united?





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