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  • #31
    I think the loss of Andrew Warren's minutes are taken over by Darian Norris, a freshman SG who is 5-6 inches shorter, and a few were given to SM and EM to shoulder on top of their minutes they'd have alerady been getting.

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    • #32
      Please, let us not compare BU to Butler, or even Creighton or SIU. There are many reasons that can be said for the results. The injuries, the facilities, the local newspaper, the size of Peoria, the television market etc., etc. Just be thankful that BU is .500 and still has a program after all of the hurdles it must get over. And remember, it's just a game....have fun!
      "Let's make some noise".

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      • #33
        Originally posted by srw View Post
        4)The Warren loss has really hurt. But remember those minutes come away from EM or DD I would suspect....How much are you really gaining?
        You'd gain quite a bit with AW on the offensive side of the ball when comparing with EM or DN.

        I don't know about rebuilding being a great term, but I think it's time to let the kids play... Like everyone else, DC needs to be coming off the bench, just because it's time to see what AT's got in game action. I'd also love to see AT, TB, SS, and DC all rotating into TWO positions on the floor.
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        • #34
          I love some of the ideas y'all have about starting lineups. However, if we play with those line-ups I would also like to see a change in how the offense is run. I would like to see a more traditional Bob Knight motion offense in there. His offense seems to create open men and more high percentage shots. I think this type of offense would make a big difference given our shooting woes and the many mismatches we encounter in our offensive sets.

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          • #35
            Bradley gets another chance to salvage the season when the Valley season starts after Christmas. If they fail early on, then it is time to scrap the season and play for next season.

            Until Bradley gets an inside game, they will always be in a rebuilding mode. The good news is that the recruiting has been focused on big men recently.
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            • #36
              Originally posted by it's boogie time View Post
              Bradley gets another chance to salvage the season when the Valley season starts after Christmas. If they fail early on, then it is time to scrap the season and play for next season.

              Until Bradley gets an inside game, they will always be in a rebuilding mode. The good news is that the recruiting has been focused on big men recently.
              I don't know about the fail early on thing. That has been kind of a trend of late. We do not tend to get off on the right foot when it comes to the valley season, and I don't really know if I would expect them too this year. This is the hardest beginning of the valley schedule that Bradley has had in a while and it is coming in a year where we are having some troubles. So I fully expect for that trend to continue, but you never know what could happen down the stretch like we seem to do every year also, which is why I'm not sure if we should "scrap the season" a few games after christmas.

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              • #37
                I hope BU does well to start the Valley season, but I certainly don't expect it. Unless Santa brings Bradley some defense, rebounding and shooting, it's not going to happen.

                The schedule at the beginning (first five games) is great in my mind. Three home games against SIU, Creighton and ISU. I realize the students are gone, but these are the three teams that the fan base can get up for. Then throw in two road games against a struggling team and a first year coached team. If you can't win home games against the better teams and you can't win road games against the projected lower division of the conference, your team has no chance of contending for a title anyway.

                If this was a good Bradley team, they would get off to a great start with some meaningful wins.
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                • #38
                  Originally posted by srw View Post
                  3)I don't understand how one can be rebuilding when they are 6 games under .500 in their league after 6 years.

                  When you come off of 4 straight winning seasons built by 2 stars (Ruff & Crouch) who are now gone THIS IS REBUILDING!

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by braves12 View Post
                    Please, let us not compare BU to Butler, or even Creighton or SIU. There are many reasons that can be said for the results. The injuries, the facilities, the local newspaper, the size of Peoria, the television market etc., etc. Just be thankful that BU is .500 and still has a program after all of the hurdles it must get over. And remember, it's just a game....have fun!
                    You have me extremely confused here because everything you said about Bradley minus the injuries is 100x better than at SIU...

                    They do play in Carbondale remember....in poor facilities including their arena which they apparently are trying to renovate (AGAIN)...

                    Be thankful to be .500?! I'm sorry but thats just not good enough!

                    Still has a program? You act as though basketball may be cut out of the budget...may I ask what reasoning you have for these comments?

                    Yes Creighton may be on a higher scale, but w/ a good coaching staff that can recruit, develop players, and win games (biggest of the 3), we should have no problem competing w/ Butler...

                    I do recall that Butler plays in a VERY old facility...so that isn't always the reason...

                    1) They have won lately and quite a bit at that

                    2) According to current results, they have a better coaching staff

                    3) They have simply outrecruited us...taking players we really wanted.

                    4) Yes they may be in a BIGGER market in Indy, but they are also grabbing players that at one point either went to Indiana, Purdue, Notre Dame, or Cincinnati....can we honestly say we're stealing players away from Illinois, Missouri, or DePaul....I really doubt that!

                    In their case, they have a good young head coach that could take them around the level Gonzaga was at a few years back.


                    Us, I would like to hope we get their eventually, but many things need to be re-evaluated and realized before that even has a chance of occuring...


                    But to say we should be lucky to have a .500 team is ridiculous and insulting to our university and our fan base

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                    • #40
                      Did I really just see two posts that partially blamed the local newspaper for Bradley's lack of success? You're kidding, right? This place has gone to the loony bin.

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                      • #41
                        I'd like to know the names of the Butler kids who were "stolen" from the BCS guys...
                        nope, all the best kids Butler has were nice jobs of recruiting the hidden gems, but they haven't been outrecruiting Indiana, Ohio State, and Notre Dame

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
                          You have me extremely confused here because everything you said about Bradley minus the injuries is 100x better than at SIU...

                          They do play in Carbondale remember....in poor facilities including their arena which they apparently are trying to renovate (AGAIN)...

                          Be thankful to be .500?! I'm sorry but thats just not good enough!

                          Still has a program? You act as though basketball may be cut out of the budget...may I ask what reasoning you have for these comments?

                          Yes Creighton may be on a higher scale, but w/ a good coaching staff that can recruit, develop players, and win games (biggest of the 3), we should have no problem competing w/ Butler...

                          I do recall that Butler plays in a VERY old facility...so that isn't always the reason...

                          1) They have won lately and quite a bit at that

                          2) According to current results, they have a better coaching staff

                          3) They have simply outrecruited us...taking players we really wanted.

                          4) Yes they may be in a BIGGER market in Indy, but they are also grabbing players that at one point either went to Indiana, Purdue, Notre Dame, or Cincinnati....can we honestly say we're stealing players away from Illinois, Missouri, or DePaul....I really doubt that!

                          In their case, they have a good young head coach that could take them around the level Gonzaga was at a few years back.


                          Us, I would like to hope we get their eventually, but many things need to be re-evaluated and realized before that even has a chance of occuring...


                          But to say we should be lucky to have a .500 team is ridiculous and insulting to our university and our fan base
                          I think part of his post might have been in jest...

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by Scouter View Post
                            Did I really just see two posts that partially blamed the local newspaper for Bradley's lack of success? You're kidding, right? This place has gone to the loony bin.
                            I do not think they were blaming the local rag for the lack of success but it would be nice if they were a bit more positive about what BU could offer a recruit just maybe we could recruit more local kids. There's a few reason we are not getting the best recruits out of Peoria and the PJS is just not really helping us. If anything they are helping that big state funded school east of Peoria. I have though, seen a better tone and realistic reporting this year from them then in years past. I guess a lot of it has to do with the way the slammed us for the DR incident.

                            Our lack of success this year has more to do with injuries and the lack of a shooting game IMHO.
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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by SFP View Post
                              I do not think they were blaming the local rag for the lack of success but it would be nice if they were a bit more positive about what BU could offer a recruit just maybe we could recruit more local kids. There's a few reason we are not getting the best recruits out of Peoria and the PJS is just not really helping us. If anything they are helping that big state funded school east of Peoria. I have though, seen a better tone and realistic reporting this year from them then in years past. I guess a lot of it has to do with the way the slammed us for the DR incident.

                              Our lack of success this year has more to do with injuries and the lack of a shooting game IMHO.
                              Unfortunately not everything can be colored in roses....


                              Just ask the Tribune and IL's governor

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                              • #45
                                D.Reynolds just stole my article and without Warren and Egolf we are rebuilding as we have so many 1st year players. GTD, how can you compare our center to D.Moore who was all conference and led his team to the championship? He would be better compared to J.Baptist.

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