Aimed Too High

[tornado]

There have been numerous threads about kids tranferring out where they aren't getting playing time or are unhappy...

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and we've had our share -- Cole-Scott, Jassey, Rembert, Stemler, Austin, DeAaron...

But did anyone watch the Evansville-UNC game and see the best example I know of a really talented kid, who would have gotten a ton of playing time, and who might have been a legit DI star, had he not gone to the top school in the nation talent-wise and get beat out by another 5-Star kid?

Bobby Frasor, former McDonald's All American, got a few minutes last night against Evansville in deep garbage time. If the kid can't get more than a few deep-sub minutes even in 30 point blowouts, then unfortunately the kid's talent is being wasted.
Maybe he enjoys being part of a championship caliber team, and more power to him...but now it's too late to transfer, he has no time left.

But he is the classic example of a kid who aimed too high.
Of all the kids we've been discussing recently, Cotto, Hamga, etc.....
Frasor was the one who I think WOULD HAVE BEEN a star had he aimed even one tiny notch below one of the top 2 programs ever.

[georgethedog]

There have certainly been plenty of Peoria area players who think they "have" to play at Illinois (or B10) and have not had success. If they would have gone to a mid-major things may have turned out different for some of them. What do you think Anthony Parker would be doing right now had he gone to a BCS school and sat the bench for 4 years?

[SFP]

I do not think, if healthy, that AP would have sat on anyones bench year 3-4. Too much talent there. Potential NBA talent that works hard will 99.9% of the time be starting and or be seeing plenty of minutes in college on any team. I reserve that .1% for the occasional bad apple.

To make the NBA you need to have unmatched potential. Only a few handful of players make it to that level every year. So I would predict the AP would have started for any team Junior and Senior season and would be where he is at now.

Bobby Frassor may be good enough to start in just about any program except NC or any top 10 team, but it does not mean he has NBA talent. If he does he'll have to just go a different route then directly to a NBA team. Playing for NC he may not be getting valuable playing time for scouts to evaluate him but I bet his practices every day are as good as it gets. I guess it depends on what your goals are as T stated.

[braves12]

In a perfect world all players would end up at the schools that are a perfect fit for them. This is not uncommon and it won't change. If you want to read an interesting book that discusses a little about this and much, much more regarding big time college basketball and what goes on at some of these universities, get your hands on - Personal Fouls: The Broken Promises and Shattered Dreams of Big Money Basketball at Jim Valvano's North Carolina State .

[tornado]

ha, ha.....maybe Tyrone Appleton is reading our board...or maybe Bill Self just needs more open scholarships to pursue some of the Memphis recruits who won't follow Calipari..

Anyway...Tyrone Appleton, one of the top rated juco kids a year ago who went to Kansas and sat much of the season, is leaving and transferring....
proof that even he now agrees that he aimed way, way too high.

http://www.kansascity.com/sports/story/1134722.html

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/153746-kansas-jayhawks-thomas-and-appleton-transfer-open-spots-for-recruits

[Murph]

If a kid wants to challenge himself by playing at the highest level that he can, I say go for it, but they also need to realize that if they're good enough to play at the next level the scouts will find them no matter what college they play for.

[BradleyBrave]

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http://bradleyfans.com/vb/showthread.php?t=10256

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and we've had our share -- Cole-Scott, Jassey, Rembert, Stemler, Austin, DeAaron...

But did anyone watch the Evansville-UNC game and see the best example I know of a really talented kid, who would have gotten a ton of playing time, and who might have been a legit DI star, had he not gone to the top school in the nation talent-wise and get beat out by another 5-Star kid?

Bobby Frasor, former McDonald's All American, got a few minutes last night against Evansville in deep garbage time. If the kid can't get more than a few deep-sub minutes even in 30 point blowouts, then unfortunately the kid's talent is being wasted.
Maybe he enjoys being part of a championship caliber team, and more power to him...but now it's too late to transfer, he has no time left.

But he is the classic example of a kid who aimed too high.
Of all the kids we've been discussing recently, Cotto, Hamga, etc.....
Frasor was the one who I think WOULD HAVE BEEN a star had he aimed even one tiny notch below one of the top 2 programs ever.

I can guarantee you that Bobby Frasor wouldn't trade his time at UNC and being part of a national championship for any experience at any other school.

[tornado]

Kansas is already the early favorite to win next year but that doesn't stop a
couple kids from leaving to actually get more playing time elsewhere.

[ser_solace]

If a kid wants to challenge himself by playing at the highest level that he can, I say go for it, but they also need to realize that if they're good enough to play at the next level the scouts will find them no matter what college they play for.

Yeah, I agree with this. There's a reason why they're good. It's their competitive nature.

Hindsight's always 20/20. However, they should want to test themselves at the highest level. None of them would be as good as they are if they listened to detractors early.