1 MVC game tonight- Evansville at North Carolina

[braves12]

I was impressed with Evansville. They did a lot of things a team needs to do to win in the Valley. They were over matched in size, speed and jumping and never quit. I thought the announcers did a decent job recognizing Evansville considering they were playing the #1 team in the nation. Can you imagine if Dickie V would have been on the game

[Da Coach]

The color guy talked briefly about the valley, and he said how he was impressed with Wichita State when he saw them earlier in the year, and he said-
"and they were picked anywhere from 9th to 11th in the Missouri Valley"!

I looked, but I couldn't find anyone who picked them 11th.

[braves12]

Where and how hard did you look?

[lefty]

The color guy talked briefly about the valley, and he said how he was impressed with Wichita State when he saw them earlier in the year, and he said-
"and they were picked anywhere from 9th to 11th in the Missouri Valley"!

I looked, but I couldn't find anyone who picked them 11th.

where do you guys find the time scrutinize every little thing announcers say?
If they were picked 9th or 10th does it really make much difference if they were off one place?
For a team that got beat 20plus the announcers talked pretty highly of them

[RedbirdFan21]

where do you guys find the time scrutinize every little thing announcers say?
If they were picked 9th or 10th does it really make much difference if they were off one place?
For a team that got beat 20plus the announcers talked pretty highly of them

I believe it is called nit-picking (sp??)

[Da Coach]

where do you guys find the time scrutinize every little thing announcers say?
If they were picked 9th or 10th does it really make much difference if they were off one place?
For a team that got beat 20plus the announcers talked pretty highly of them

I didn't think I needed to explain this gaffe.

The announcer said WSU was picked "anywhere from 9th to 11th".
He obviously believed there were 11 teams in the MVC, thus showing that he knew much less about the MVC than he tried to make people believe.

[lefty]

I didn't think I needed to explain this gaffe.

The announcer said WSU was picked "anywhere from 9th to 11th".
He obviously believed there were 11 teams in the MVC, thus showing that he knew much less about the MVC than he tried to make people believe.

Well I doubt he knows exactly how many teams are in the non-BCS conferences because they don't focus on them. He talked about a few teams in the MVC like any announcer does when they are on TV.

Little things like that don't seem that important.....maybe he was confusing the MVC with the Big Ten

[BUBraves2006]

Maybe UIC or Butler is joining the Valley ... they've each got three Valley teams on their schedule ...

[Da Coach]

Well I doubt he knows exactly how many teams are in the non-BCS conferences because they don't focus on them. He talked about a few teams in the MVC like any announcer does when they are on TV.

Little things like that don't seem that important.....maybe he was confusing the MVC with the Big Ten

Maybe, but I have seen the hours of sit-down research that professional announcers like Snell and Stowell do before every game so that they are familiar with the teams. It struck me that if the guy doesn't even know how many teams are in the conference, then he probably didn't do a bit of research, other than how to pronounce names.

[jasonpeoria911]

The reserves have played plentiful every game this season. Like DC or someone else said, their reserves could be a starting 5 on most teams and Evansville played decent against them in the 2nd half. UNC's starters probably could of made this a 40 point win but what's the point. I think Evansville did decent and may actually be out of the Thursday night play in rut.

Jason

Fair enough...but I wonder how often their reserves got in in the last 6 games as well....something to think about, but I stand by statement...

[bluedevils1]

By the way, Tyler Hansbrough just broke Phil Ford's career scoring record for North Carolina of 2,290 points, set in 1978.

With all the incredible players that North Carolina has had through the decades, more than 70 players who have played in the NBA, their career scoring record was 2,290 points and it has stood for 30 years.

Just for comparison sake, Bradley has had 2 players who have career scoring numbers better than every player who has ever played at North Carolina. Mitchell Anderson (#2 on the BU career scoring list) scored 2,341 points, which Hansbrough will likely eclipse, too, and Hersey Hawkins (#1 on the BU list, and #7 on the all-time NCAA list) at 3,008 points.

All-time career NCAA D1 scoring

1. Pete Maravich (LSU) 3,667 pts.
2. Freeman Williams (Portland State) 3,249
3. Lionel Simmons (LaSalle) 3,217
4. Alphonso Ford (Miss. Valley St.) 3,165
5. Harry Kelly (Tex. Southern) 3,066
6. Keydren Clark (St. Peter's) 3,058
7. Hersey Hawkins (Bradley) 3,008
8. Oscar Robertson (Cincinnati) 2,973
9. Danny Manning (Kansas) 2,951 10. Alfredrick Hughes (Loyola, Ill.) 2,914

That's because they their players stay two years then go to The League, consistently. If you put their numbers at a "per-4 year" basis just like per 40 minutes, they would have some amazing numbers.

[ser_solace]

That's because they their players stay two years then go to The League, consistently. If you put their numbers at a "per-4 year" basis just like per 40 minutes, they would have some amazing numbers.

Yeah, maybe. Tough to say that too because there's so many options on a UNC team. Hersey, I imagine, was the number one scoring option for Bradley. On the other hand, a team with tons of talent like UNC doesn't have just one player who can rack up the points.

I don't know the other players well, but Oscar Robertson would probably be #1 if they counted his freshmen year. I believe in his time freshmen were on the JV team, and the points in the record books are only include varisty scores.

[Braves4Life]

Save loyola basketball, shoot alfredrick hughes

Speaking of Alredrick Hughes at #10...............

Here's a good (and funny) article. Note how they mention his 1-21 shooting performance against Bradley at the end of the story Anyone else remember that game? Worst shooting performance I've ever seen

http://vault.sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vault/article/magazine/MAG1119075/index.htm

From the story: "In that first year Hughes missed 13 of 17 shots in Loyola's one-point loss to Minnesota and followed that five games later with a stat-of-the-art effort against Bradley in which he missed 20 straight before finally stuffing a tomahawk jam on his final attempt of the evening. In the locker room afterward, as Battle apologized for missing but one of his nine shots, a chortling Hughes said, "You see me stick that last one?"

[lefty]

Maybe, but I have seen the hours of sit-down research that professional announcers like Snell and Stowell do before every game so that they are familiar with the teams. It struck me that if the guy doesn't even know how many teams are in the conference, then he probably didn't do a bit of research, other than how to pronounce names.

I understand what you are saying DC. But I don't know that it is fair to compare Snell and Stowell who only do BU and aren't traveling around the country doing different conferences and teams.
They are going to know more about BCS teams since they do more of their games than non-BCS.

[tornado]

but lefty, Snell and Stowell have busy lives doing many other things,
while the guys who do the games on ESPN are for the most part FULL TIME, highly paid TV announcers.
I think when they show the degree of ignorance that I also noted in this game, it is inexcusable.

Evansville's starting center is Pieter van Tongeren, who has started every game since his first game as a freshman, yet the announcers often didn't know who the guy was, repeatedly getting his name wrong.
They spent an inordinate amount of time dwelling on every tiny detail of the Hansbroughs and all their family members, so I guess maybe they completely ran out of time and couldn't review even the main facts about Evansville.