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[BradleyBrave]

From Kirk Wessler's column Thursday morning

The most-repeated question around Bradley basketball these days: When will Andrew Warren return?

The most-repeated answer from Braves coach Jim Les: When Andrew is pain-free in his right foot, which was broken in September.

And how long might that be?

Nobody knows, but consider this. Former BU star Anthony Parker broke the same bone, the fifth metatarsal of his right foot, in November 1996, his senior season. He returned to action in early January, but he was not pain-free until months after the season ended.

http://www.pjstar.com/sports/x776489791/WESSLER-Go-easy-on-the-stripes-this-holiday

[MacabreMob]

From Kirk Wessler's column Thursday morning

The most-repeated question around Bradley basketball these days: When will Andrew Warren return?

The most-repeated answer from Braves coach Jim Les: When Andrew is pain-free in his right foot, which was broken in September.

And how long might that be?

Nobody knows, but consider this. Former BU star Anthony Parker broke the same bone, the fifth metatarsal of his right foot, in November 1996, his senior season. He returned to action in early January, but he was not pain-free until months after the season ended.

http://www.pjstar.com/sports/x776489...s-this-holiday

So this means what BB?

[Scouter]

So this means what BB?

Nothing. Just food for thought. I'm surprised you even read it.

[tornado]

The thread on Valley Talk directly quotes Andrews mother who made the statements to a public audience. Imagine if everyone only read the headlines on this board.

So you suggest we all just blindly accept everything said on message boards?
Personally, I have read some pretty preposterous inaccuracies on VT.

[JC43]

So you suggest we all just blindly accept everything said on message boards?
Personally, I have read some pretty preposterous inaccuracies on VT.

I don??™t think Ive read anything on VT as preposterous as TCS being "NBA Talent" luckily people are able to interpret the information themselves. If you don??™t believe what someone posts then ignore it. Da Coach said he had the transcript of exactly what his mother said why not post the exact quotes and let the readers decide?

[Biff]

You must not spend much time on Valley Talk if you don't think people exaggerate there. The Wichita fans always rate their recruits as certain All MVC players.

[SFP]

I don??™t think Ive read anything on VT as preposterous as TCS being "NBA Talent" luckily people are able to interpret the information themselves. If you don??™t believe what someone posts then ignore it. Da Coach said he had the transcript of exactly what his mother said why not post the exact quotes and let the readers decide?

I was on that chat and I can tell you that AW'smom never said he was going to redshirt. She did say it was a possibility. She did say other things but the way this is going I'll leave my comment nice and brief.

[BradleyBrave]

I was on that chat and I can tell you that AW'smom never said he was going to redshirt. She did say it was a possibility. She did say other things but the way this is going I'll leave my comment nice and brief.

Yes, she said some other things that would lead one to believe she isn't JL's biggest fan. I would take what parents say with a grain of salt in these situations, and that's about all I will say at this point.

[Beninator]

I was on that chat and I can tell you that AW'smom never said he was going to redshirt. She did say it was a possibility. She did say other things but the way this is going I'll leave my comment nice and brief.

Well said SFP... Like a lot of people, I have been in the chat rooms... AW's mom is a class act. Lets give AW and his parents some privacy and hope for a speedy recovery for Andrew.

[houstontxbrave]

I was on that chat and I can tell you that AW'smom never said he was going to redshirt. She did say it was a possibility. She did say other things but the way this is going I'll leave my comment nice and brief.

SFP, I did not know that the person in the chat room was or is Warrens mom, but what that person said regardless of whether it was a definitive, yes he was redshirting or said likely or it was a real possiblity, the situation is that person said things regarding Warrens' injury that gave everyone in that chat a real insight into the injury and the problems Warren is having.

It is very difficult for anyone who read what was written to not walk way from the discussion thinking anything other then he is going to ask for a redshirt. I do not remember the exact word that was used when it was being discussed about the fracture and the pain but the word redshirt was said by the poster.

If someone, who many know the exact relationship with a player, makes those comments in a public chat room to the exact extent the poster made, I find it diffcult to not believe those same statements should be off limits in another public forum. I understand here we dont speculate until it is confirmed by BU but even that is a bit of a stretch after the discussion and words typed in the chat room by the person who actually typed them.

[BradleyBrave]

Thanks SFP. I appreciate not getting into everything that was discussed in the privacy of the chat room. It was never stated by anyone that AW would redshirt.

AW's parents are super people, but I don't know if I have ever met a parent who didn't think the talents of their kid were a bit underappreciated by his coach.

Not trying to split hairs here, but isn't 'the privacy of a chat room' kind of an oxymoron? This is a public board, and a chat room is the most public of forums. While anonymity is certainly the right of someone on a message board/in a chat room, privacy is not. At least not in this medium. If it was a 'members only' site where users had to be validated to be let into the chat room, perhaps it would be different. Whatever she posts and says on here I think is fair game. If she didn't want her feelings known she wouldn't have written them for all to see.

[houstontxbrave]

Thanks SFP. I appreciate not getting into everything that was discussed in the privacy of the chat room. It was never stated by anyone that AW would redshirt.

AW's parents are super people, but I don't know if I have ever met a parent who didn't think the talents of their kid were a bit underappreciated by his coach.

Problem is DC the chat room is not a private place, it is public and anyone who chooses to sign in can participate. Again it might not have been said exactly he is or was for sure redshirting but when a person many in that room knows is close to that player uses the word redshirt in a way that either implies or likely confirms the redshirt, then it is very hard to not log out of that chat and think he is going to have to redshirt.

Regardless, the chat rooms are great for all of us not in Peoria, and very informative... maybe a bit to much huh

[Da Coach]

Actualy, houston, in a way, it is still private, since whatever was stated in that chatroom was not intended to be posted on a bulletin board.
And we do have control over who enters the chatroom.
That is why you need to register with your email address to enter, so you can be identified.

[houstontxbrave]

Actualy, houston, in a way, it is still private, since whatever was stated in that chatroom was not intended to be posted on a bulletin board.
And we do have control over who enters the chatroom.
That is why you need to register with your email address to enter, so you can be identified.

How do you or anyone who moderates the chat room know that what a poster writes is not intended to be picked up and posted on a bulletin board? How does anyone know that the person who said what was said in the chat room about Warren, that the actual intent of the posting was to make it public on a message board?

Regardless this is a silly discussion, the person said what was said and what that person said was made public. History can not be rewritten.

[Da Coach]

The person we are talking about has posted before on this board, so I assume if they wanted the board to know, they would have posted it here.
I still consider the chatroom to be private discussions, and I will not be posting the chatroom log here.