Butler at Ohio State

[lefty]

What if BU played bad and won.....I understand your point and won't argue about the basic premise of good fundamentals and intensity. I'm just saying from MY limited understanding of the game maybe its less about us playing horrible and more about the "better" team making us look bad.

Sometimes if it looks, walks and quacks like a duck its a duck and there is no doubt BU played some bad ball but this loss bothers me a tad less knowing this Butler team is very good. Does it make me feel better..not really just trying to be a realist and put things into a bit better perspective.

With that said I'm looking for a better effort Sunday. Will a win mean we hustled and had better fundamentals OR that we looked better becuase we aere better then SEMO?

Butler is a good team but the are not so much better that BU couldn't execute.
How they play offense doesn't have anything to do with us not rotating or leaving guys open.
If Butler was physically more imposing(like North Carolina) then it would it wouldn't make any difference how we play.
Butler was well coached and did many of the little things right....which comes from being disciplined not athletic

[BradleyBrave]

We have heard the term 'The Gonzaga of the Midwest' thrown around for what BU aspires to be. I'd say we should probably shoot for SIU, CU, Butler, and Xavier first.

[braves12]

dogs,

I want wins as much as the next fan, but I think wins come after:

1. Hustle, intensity, desire etc.

2. Fundamentals like blocking out for rebounds, following your shots, crashing the boards, intensity on defense (zone or man, I don't care), setting screens, setting your man up properly to rub off the screen, ball fakes, head fakes, pump fakes and drives, hesitation dribbles, drawing fouls, making free throws, passing, spacing etc. etc.

3. Coaching schemes and adjustments to take advantage of the other teams weaknesses and slow down thier strengths (I think Ohio St. went to a box and 1 in the 2nd half for a while today).

4. Recruiting better players.......basketball players.

BU is not going to get many 4 and 5 star players. The players they get need to do 1 and 2 to be successful. Doing a better job of 1 and 2 can win the Valley or at least compete for it.

I do not want a coaching change. I just want the staff to get the team better at 1 and 2.

A 20 point win on sunday will mean nothing to me if I don't think BU is better at 1 and 2. Just my opinion of what I see from the upper bowl.

If you can see through the bottom of the plastic cup on sunday watch away from the ball and see if you see good fundamentals and all out hustle.

Lastly, no pity for O&B74 on the golf course after the operation....he can still out putt both of us!!!!!!!!!!

[BradleyBrave]

dogs,

I want wins as much as the next fan, but I think wins come after:

1. Hustle, intensity, desire etc.

2. Fundamentals like blocking out for rebounds, following your shots, crashing the boards, intensity on defense (zone or man, I don't care), setting screens, setting your man up properly to rub off the screen, ball fakes, head fakes, pump fakes and drives, hesitation dribbles, drawing fouls, making free throws, passing, spacing etc. etc.

3. Coaching schemes and adjustments to take advantage of the other teams weaknesses and slow down thier strengths (I think Ohio St. went to a box and 1 in the 2nd half for a while today).

4. Recruiting better players.......basketball players.

BU is not going to get many 4 and 5 star players. The players they get need to do 1 and 2 to be successful. Doing a better job of 1 and 2 can win the Valley or at least compete for it.

I do not want a coaching change. I just want the staff to get the team better at 1 and 2.

A 20 point win on sunday will mean nothing to me if I don't think BU is better at 1 and 2. Just my opinion of what I see from the upper bowl.

If you can see through the bottom of the plastic cup on sunday watch away from the ball and see if you see good fundamentals and all out hustle.

Lastly, no pity for O&B74 on the golf course after the operation....he can still out putt both of us!!!!!!!!!!

I like this post a lot. I think it makes a lot of good points (of which I highlighted). I think we need to be a bit patient with our freshmen, as they are going to have their ups and downs. However, the mistakes we're making are so fundamentally poor, they're unacceptable regardless of age. The dreadful shooting doesn't help either.