"Privileges" taken away

[mexicobufan]

My point was the tone that this thread has taken and the fact that it has become more than conversation. I understand this is a basketball board and I understand and love Bradley basketball but when it gets personal its a little ridicules. Over the last month posters on this board have attacked the guys who put this board together, the guys that help monitor it and so on and so on. Its B.S. and its not constructive and its not what the board has been about over the period of time I have been coming here.

Maybe I dont get it and yes I have the ability to not be a member and not read this crap..............its a game, we are all fans but it isnt life or death and its not personal..................

[Braves4Life]

My point was the tone that this thread has taken and the fact that it has become more than conversation. I understand this is a basketball board and I understand and love Bradley basketball but when it gets personal its a little ridicules. Over the last month posters on this board have attacked the guys who put this board together, the guys that help monitor it and so on and so on. Its B.S. and its not constructive and its not what the board has been about over the period of time I have been coming here.

Maybe I dont get it and yes I have the ability to not be a member and not read this crap..............its a game, we are all fans but it isnt life or death and its not personal..................

I love you man! I've noticed a very different tone on this board the past few months; I attribute it to Bradleyfans.com's popularity and growth and the addition of many new members and posters that are unfamiliar of the "tone" that most members of this board encourage.

Now, I'm not bashing the new guys here. I think they've added some excellent viewpoints that we wouldn't have otherwise had. I, too, wish the tone was more positive.

[SaintLouBrave22]

I don't know what bothers me more:

1) The fact that criticism is always viewed as "negative" around here, no matter how constructive it may be......or

2) Since players read the board, the "negativity" somehow affects their performance, and if that's the case, it's only fair to surmise their mental toughness must be well, not very good.

If #2 is true, then let me say this to any player who reads the board: college is a tremendous learning experience, and it doesn't get any easier once you leave, learn now that you will constantly be evaluated and criticized by others, many of whom have no idea what it's like to walk (or jump, or run) in your shoes, but unfortunately, that's life. Use this experience now to learn how to handle this situation, take the good, leave the bad, but develop your mental toughness now so you can handle life in THE REAL WORLD.

Couldn't agree w/ you more...


Mental toughness is everything these days, and people seem to always want to take the easy way out instead of getting their toes stepped on or being afraid that will happen.

This is all purely based on opinion and may not be for those w/ a thin skin or those who have not invested enough time and effort into this program as some of us have.

If you can't understand why someone posts something then maybe direct something in the form of a question to that person, or option B, let it go...


Either way, none of us have to be here....



WE CHOOSE TO BE HERE...to promote and discuss Bradley Basketball and sometimes other topics in the other forums...


This is like politics to an extent that if you don't agree w/ a certain thread or post, you should be able to clearly have your voice heard, OR you can click out and move on to the next thread.


Its as simple as that guys...If you would like to discuss war, cancer, etc. you can certainly PM me and I will discuss it with you and there is an off-topic forum for that as well...


Just remember that we choose to be here and everyone chooses to discuss problems and successes with everyone else...


We may all have varying opinions, but one thing I know is true...


WE ALL want Bradley Basketball to be the best it can be!

[SFP]

Mexico I feel the same way you do
All Mexico was saying is keep things in perspective of the big picture called life. This is only a game, not life or death, so stop beating yourself and everyone up. Also I want to add that these are YOUNG adults learning their way around a new environment. Let's give them at least a chance without so much negativity. Isn't there enough negativity out there in the real world. You would think a few people here get paid or make a living by how this team does.

I will not stop anyone from criticizing JL, even though I will not, because he signed up for this, is getting paid and is a full fledge adult who can handle this with ease.

[Chico]

To insinuate that the posters on this board don't care about the World's problems is ridiculous. As for those who say there is an off sports forum on this board, I don't know where it is. The word sports is on every forum. If you don't like what you're reading go to another thread, you might find something you agree with. That's what most of us do.

[Da Coach]

I don't know what bothers me more:

1) The fact that criticism is always viewed as "negative" around here, no matter how constructive it may be......

This is clearly not true. There are hundreds if not thousands of critical posts, especially after losses, and 99% of them are never edited or deleted.
But there is a difference in these 2 statements--

Player A didn't play well tonight.
vs.
Player A has no skills and doesn't deserve to be playing Division I ball.

I could give more specific examples, but I think everyone knows what I mean and will agree that criticism can go too far. Our position is that we will not allow unfair criticism directly aimed at players or coaches.
We've had this discussion many times. It is not censorship. People are free to believe or say whatever they want, but this site is privately owned and managed, and we will decide when things cross the line here. Virtually all message board have rules and limits on what can be said, so I cannot believe anyone here would be surprised, or object that this site does, too.

It is no different than if you invite people into your home, and they start crapping on your couch.
You have every right to set the rules, and throw them out if you feel they have violated those rules.

[BradleyBrave]

It is no different than if you invite people into your home, and they start crapping on your couch.

This is the funniest thing I have ever read on here! I'm seriously laughing out loud right now! Classic!

[Da Coach]

I'll be here all week!

[BU Bill]

I know what you mean Coach. I hate when that happens!

[Braves4Life]

But there is a difference in these 2 statements--

Player A didn't play well tonight.
vs.
Player A has no skills and doesn't deserve to be playing Division I ball.

I could give more specific examples, but I think everyone knows what I mean and will agree that criticism can go too far. Our position is that we will not allow unfair criticism directly aimed at players or coaches.
We've had this discussion many times. It is not censorship. ........
It is no different than if you invite people into your home, and they start crapping on your couch.
You have every right to set the rules, and throw them out if you feel they have violated those rules.

I have absolutely NO problem with this statement and these rules and would hope everyone could respect them....... And I TOTALLY understand the "crap on your couch" analogy..... And agree!

Let's remember these are kids we're talking about here and, contrary to what some may say, they ARE NOT public figures.

Keep up the good work Da Coach

[MacabreMob]

It is no different than if you invite people into your home, and they start crapping on your couch.

This is the funniest thing I have ever read on here! I'm seriously laughing out loud right now! Classic!

LOL! That IS funny stuff. Which got me thinking... hmmmm... Message Boards letting people crap on couches... the 'other board' let anti-BU fans do it all the time... and then I would sit on the couches for discussion. Eeeeewwwww!!!!! Yikes! Thankyou for BradleyFans.com - no more poopy seats to sit in.

[buballer82]

I don't think that privileges need to be taken away, the right people just need to be played in the right positions.

First and foremost, I think Eddren McCain should be the starting point guard. I like Maniscalco but I think he would be better at the 2 even though he's a small 2. It seems like when he plays point its tougher for him to get a good shot off. EM is very quick with and without the ball and the team seems to flow better with him at point.

Secondly, I think Taylor Brown should start. He plays hard whenever he is on the floor. He has a knack for getting to the ball, and he seems consistent with his midrange game.

Third, I'm not sure what to say about Theron Wilson. At times I really enjoy watching him, but at times, when he lets his emotions get the best of him, its hard to watch. I remember watching one of the Florida tournament games on Comcast and he was jawing at someone and Dick Versace said, " What he needs to do is shut up right now!" I couldn't have agreed more. Last night I saw more of the same. Theron wants to stare at opponents and jaw after a coast to coast play........unacceptable! Great or not, no player should act like that and I think we all as Bradley fans expect more from our guys.

Fourth, why not play Anthony Thompson? And I'm not talking 2 minutes at the end of the game. I would like to see meaningful minutes. Give the kid a shot of confidence. Put him in when it counts. If Bradley is going to compete in the Valley this year or the next few years he needs to get experience and quick.

WAR - People crapping on other people's couches!!!!

[SaintLouBrave22]

I don't think that privileges need to be taken away, the right people just need to be played in the right positions.

First and foremost, I think Eddren McCain should be the starting point guard. I like Maniscalco but I think he would be better at the 2 even though he's a small 2. It seems like when he plays point its tougher for him to get a good shot off. EM is very quick with and without the ball and the team seems to flow better with him at point.

Secondly, I think Taylor Brown should start. He plays hard whenever he is on the floor. He has a knack for getting to the ball, and he seems consistent with his midrange game.

Third, I'm not sure what to say about Theron Wilson. At times I really enjoy watching him, but at times, when he lets his emotions get the best of him, its hard to watch. I remember watching one of the Florida tournament games on Comcast and he was jawing at someone and Dick Versace said, " What he needs to do is shut up right now!" I couldn't have agreed more. Last night I saw more of the same. Theron wants to stare at opponents and jaw after a coast to coast play........unacceptable! Great or not, no player should act like that and I think we all as Bradley fans expect more from our guys.

Fourth, why not play Anthony Thompson? And I'm not talking 2 minutes at the end of the game. I would like to see meaningful minutes. Give the kid a shot of confidence. Put him in when it counts. If Bradley is going to compete in the Valley this year or the next few years he needs to get experience and quick.

WAR - People crapping on other people's couches!!!!

Agree w/ every comment made there...


Including the war of crapping on other ppl's couches...


And yes, not to forget you DC, that was an enjoyable comment to end a day...



BTW....baller, I take it you must listen to Rome?

[buballer82]

Indeed! Rome is the greatest sports entertainment in the world!!!!

[SaintLouBrave22]

Indeed! Rome is the greatest sports entertainment in the world!!!!

Do you enjoy the Rome mix in slow motion as well?