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I think one of the privileges JL should take away from the players is the "privilege" of reading this board. They have enough to worry about and work on and don't need to be exposed to all this negativity. (I place myself among the guilty.) Thank God for DC and other voices of reason. Go Braves.
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Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
Hustle never slumps.
The one time I remember seeing hustle from our side is when TW ran down that loose ball, split two defenders and scored on the breakaway.____________________
GO BRAVES!
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Originally posted by ryeguy212 View PostAgreed, I distinctly remember at least three loose balls that Butler players beat us to, that we should have had but every Brave near the ball thought someone else would go after it. This usually resulted in another possession and usually a three pointer for Butler. That doesn't include a few offensive rebounds they beat us to.
The one time I remember seeing hustle from our side is when TW ran down that loose ball, split two defenders and scored on the breakaway.
Obviously we've never played "kill the man w/ the ball"...
The point is not to think others are going to get the ball...
I'd rather 3 of our guys fight for a rebound and lose it out of bounds than everyone stand around assuming someone goes after a loose ball, no one does, and the other team has an easy putback...
I don't ask much, I just don't want to see players out there that look like they'd rather be somewhere else or players wandering like they're lost...
Hustle and Intensity = RESPECT
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Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View PostObviously we've never played "kill the man w/ the ball"...
The point is not to think others are going to get the ball...
I'd rather 3 of our guys fight for a rebound and lose it out of bounds than everyone stand around assuming someone goes after a loose ball, no one does, and the other team has an easy putback...
I don't ask much, I just don't want to see players out there that look like they'd rather be somewhere else or players wandering like they're lost...
Hustle and Intensity = RESPECT
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Originally posted by squirrel View PostThe best rebound Collins had last night was the result of two Butler players going after it so hard they collided and knocked each other down.
I would not expect any less of an effort...
Whether its from us or them, I would want to walk away and say we beat the other team and while they left it all out on the floor, we did just a little more to get the job done...
Thats what college basketball is all about.
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I don't know what bothers me more:
1) The fact that criticism is always viewed as "negative" around here, no matter how constructive it may be......or
2) Since players read the board, the "negativity" somehow affects their performance, and if that's the case, it's only fair to surmise their mental toughness must be well, not very good.
If #2 is true, then let me say this to any player who reads the board: college is a tremendous learning experience, and it doesn't get any easier once you leave, learn now that you will constantly be evaluated and criticized by others, many of whom have no idea what it's like to walk (or jump, or run) in your shoes, but unfortunately, that's life. Use this experience now to learn how to handle this situation, take the good, leave the bad, but develop your mental toughness now so you can handle life in THE REAL WORLD.A real fan celebrates the successes, but also acknowledges the failures of his team.
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There is no one on this board that loves BU basketball more than I do and let me assure you that it pains me to see us play the way we did last night. But I have to tell you there are some bigger issues in this world right now than how the Bradley mens basketball team play last night.
A couple of examples....
* there are two wars going on right now and our fellow Americans are dying to protect our freedoms.
* Millions of Americans are out of work and its getting worse every day.
* Millions of Americans have lost their homes and have no place to live.
I could cover cancer, HIV and so on and so on but I wont. I understand a spirited debate about the game last night but this thread has gone beyond that. I come to this board for news about Bradley and conversation with fellow posters but this is getting out of control. Now someone tell me not to read it if I dont like it!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by mexicobufan View PostThere is no one on this board that loves BU basketball more than I do and let me assure you that it pains me to see us play the way we did last night. But I have to tell you there are some bigger issues in this world right now than how the Bradley mens basketball team play last night.
A couple of examples....
* there are two wars going on right now and our fellow Americans are dying to protect our freedoms.
* Millions of Americans are out of work and its getting worse every day.
* Millions of Americans have lost their homes and have no place to live.
I could cover cancer, HIV and so on and so on but I wont. I understand a spirited debate about the game last night but this thread has gone beyond that. I come to this board for news about Bradley and conversation with fellow posters but this is getting out of control. Now someone tell me not to read it if I dont like it!!!!!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Scouter View PostWith all due respect to you and those issues, mexico, that's a silly argument IMO. Why not just tell everyone to not go/watch/listen to games and instead help solve all those issues you just mentioned?
This is a Bradley Basketball forum. We're here to talk Bradley Basketball. That doesn't mean we don't care about other issues, but they are not pertinent to this forum.
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Originally posted by mexicobufan View PostThere is no one on this board that loves BU basketball more than I do and let me assure you that it pains me to see us play the way we did last night. But I have to tell you there are some bigger issues in this world right now than how the Bradley mens basketball team play last night.
A couple of examples....
* there are two wars going on right now and our fellow Americans are dying to protect our freedoms.
* Millions of Americans are out of work and its getting worse every day.
* Millions of Americans have lost their homes and have no place to live.
I could cover cancer, HIV and so on and so on but I wont. I understand a spirited debate about the game last night but this thread has gone beyond that. I come to this board for news about Bradley and conversation with fellow posters but this is getting out of control. Now someone tell me not to read it if I dont like it!!!!!!!!!!
I agree mex but thats why we HAVE sports in the first place or at least thats what I use sports for...a distraction to take me away from the real issues you described.
I keep reminding myself the opposite of love isn't hate its indifference when I think people are getting carried away with all this Bradley criticism.
People voice their opinion (wrong as they are ) on this board becuase they trully DO care....perhaps to much at times. When we QUIT caring we will quit posting. Thats what, the indifference, I don't want to see.
We LOVE BU basketball and it hurts us when they lose and we can't do anything about it. Land of 10,000 coaches.
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I think the problem is expectations. We all talk BU Basketball up, and when they deliver we praise them and the coaches. Tell them they are great and we have the most talent in the world.. But then when we lose, it is exactly the opposite, everyone is quick to blame everyone else. I agree with everyone hear saying the Braves need to give more effort and play with pride.. But I also think that we all need to get off the Wins and Losses rollercoaster, step back, and look at the picture from a different view. Here are the facts:
1. We are a very young team.. and in most cases means less consistency. Especially in the first part of the season.
2. We are missing two primary players.. This isn't me complaining and saying they would be world savers, but the truth is.. We need them. Even if he AW wasn't the returning leading scorer, he knows the system, and having him on the floor will make things smoother.. Better? hopefully.. but smoother for sure.
3. Our defense isn't great (it has been going down hill since CB left)
-this also goes with desire. For some reason, their doesn't seem to be a lot of heart on this team. Nobody seems to be willing to carry this team through adversity.. Coaches included. Last year, JC and Sam really stepped up when things weren't great.. Bradley lost some games during that stretch without Daniel, but nobody every faulted them for effort or heart, because you could see the team giving it their all to try and win.. This year, it just isn't there.
4. Jim Les is a good coach. He is proven and I have full faith in him. Bradley is no stranger to rough patches or spots during the season under the helm of Jim Les... Just in the past few years, the Sweet 16 run included.. there were people throwing in the towel. I am not saying that I am happy with these downfalls during the season, but the past 3 years Jim Les has proven that he can deal with these set-backs and make it to the post season.
5. As all of you know... WE NEED A BIG MAN WITH FIRE. I never thought I would say I missed Matt Salley, but he was fire.
6. Losing is never fun.. but a few losses to some quality teams does not mean JL needs to change his system. Like I said earlier, he is proven.
(And to those who will say that he has never finished higher than 4th in the Valley.. I think the fact that we have been in the post season play for 3 years in a row shows he knows what he is doing, and it also shows how tough the valley really is.
Sorry about the rant.. Just had to get it out there. Otherwise, we all know that they hate losing just as much as us.. so let's just keep encouraging these players to go out and have fun and play hard.. The rest will take care of itself.
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