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  • #31
    Originally posted by squirrel View Post
    3 minutes for Thompson yesterday is inexcusable.
    Yes and no.

    I do think we need(ed) more of AT all season. The use of AT certainly fits into a pattern of some lack of non-con player development (Such as SM and RA should of played more last year's non-con, so they were more ready when we needed them)

    But, since you already sat him out too much, do you want to chance destroying his confidence against one of the more physical teams we'll face? Of course now we have Butler, will JL want to step him out now? We'll never be happy..

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    • #32
      I still ask where is the "leadership" (lack of) question when we win? It ain't there. Losing brings the "ugly" out in alot of things. Winning is the great deodarant.

      Beat Butler and all of a sudden we have great effort and leadership....or maybe we are jsut better at home and better then Butler.

      JL didn't like the intensity. He HAS to say that given the difference in the two halves. They just were not the same.

      WHats importaint is are we learning anything. Based on Florida I'd say thats a no but I STILL think its fixable.

      And don't you think we'd be seeing more of AT if he was ready. What possible reason could JL have for keeping him out IF he was good to go.

      We had enough weapons to beat them or at the very least make it a game yesterday. We all saw that in the first half. Why would JL all of a sudden through AT to the wolves in the second half when the guy has played 3 minutes all season.

      AT is NOT the answer.....

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      • #33
        Maybe we should demand that we, the fans, should dictate which players get playing time, and the amount of time they should get!

        Obviously we know better than the coaches who deserves the playing time.

        DC has been attacked for not being aggressive enough, then yesterday when he shows some aggression, he gets attacked for that.

        This discussion has turned silly as we dissect each players performance and ridicule each mistake we perceive.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by dogsrus View Post
          I still ask where is the "leadership" (lack of) question when we win? It ain't there. Losing brings the "ugly" out in alot of things. Winning is the great deodarant.

          Beat Butler and all of a sudden we have great effort and leadership....or maybe we are jsut better at home and better then Butler.

          JL didn't like the intensity. He HAS to say that given the difference in the two halves. They just were not the same.

          WHats importaint is are we learning anything. Based on Florida I'd say thats a no but I STILL think its fixable.

          And don't you think we'd be seeing more of AT if he was ready. What possible reason could JL have for keeping him out IF he was good to go.

          We had enough weapons to beat them or at the very least make it a game yesterday. We all saw that in the first half. Why would JL all of a sudden through AT to the wolves in the second half when the guy has played 3 minutes all season.

          AT is NOT the answer.....
          Thank you DRU, once again you save me typing...

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          • #35
            Originally posted by ph View Post
            Yes and no.

            I do think we need(ed) more of AT all season. The use of AT certainly fits into a pattern of some lack of non-con player development (Such as SM and RA should of played more last year's non-con, so they were more ready when we needed them)

            But, since you already sat him out too much, do you want to chance destroying his confidence against one of the more physical teams we'll face? Of course now we have Butler, will JL want to step him out now? We'll never be happy..
            If not now, when? I mean, if he's not good enough to play against MSU (and I suspect that is far from the case) than he certainly isn't good enough to play against Howard and Butler.

            And that leaves just 3 games to get ready for conference play, which opens against SIU. Certainly he won't be playing against Fay either at this rate.

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            • #36
              All I can say is watch the tape. You will see that Sam was guarding his man at the right side of the lane, and the other player came in from the left for the pass and dunk. It was not Sam's man.[/quote]

              Thats what I saw to and you are correct. However this was not a good game for him and sure wasn't the type of play we have seen from him all season. Something just was wrong.
              There is no team in the the MVC that can match up to us the whole game, if our bigs come to play! BU will win the the MVC this year!

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              • #37
                Is this thread a joke? No wonder none of us are coaches.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by squirrel View Post
                  If not now, when? I mean, if he's not good enough to play against MSU (and I suspect that is far from the case) than he certainly isn't good enough to play against Howard and Butler.

                  And that leaves just 3 games to get ready for conference play, which opens against SIU. Certainly he won't be playing against Fay either at this rate.
                  I think that JL is trying to put AT in positions that he can have some success without destroying the kids confidence... Like everyone else, I would like AT to get more minutes. But giving AT meaningful minutes at MSU was not a viable option.
                  Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                  ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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                  • #39
                    I did not watch the game but heard it from Snell. It sounded like we lost the game during the first 7 minutes in the 2nd 1/2. It sounded like we could not play shut down D and consequently we tried to score quickly and we could not hit a shot from the outside. If we were able to either play some better D, which is a team concept or hit a few 3s we could have made it a game. Imagine if we would have hit 66% of our FTs? I say overall we played decent ball against a good team and there is no doubt we need to improve if we want to make a season out of this one. It would be nice to see someone step up and hit some shots but what we need is for someone to step and take over a game defensively which will lead to some easy baskets.
                    I predict that we will be able to control the boards against Butler and creat easier chance to score then we did against MSU.
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                    • #40
                      I'll agree to disagree, Ben.

                      I think AT will really surprise people if he was given an opportunity. I really think because TB has been stable, that is where his projected minutes have gone. That said, we don't know what AT can do because JL hasn't even given him a shot.

                      That can do more damage to a kids psyche than being thrown to the wolves.

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by squirrel View Post
                        I'll agree to disagree, Ben.

                        I think AT will really surprise people if he was given an opportunity. I really think because TB has been stable, that is where his projected minutes have gone. That said, we don't know what AT can do because JL hasn't even given him a shot.

                        That can do more damage to a kids psyche than being thrown to the wolves.
                        fair enough
                        I think (and hope) that AT will get more minutes with the upcoming games.
                        Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                        ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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                        • #42
                          Would I like to see AT get more minutes...yes. Do I question the minutes..no. The reason is I do not see the players in practice. For all I know, the right players are getting the right minutes. I do worry about the lack of intensity as Coach Les mentioned. Few thought a win against MSU was probable, so the lack of intensity is not as glaring. However, if BU loses a game they should win because they have a lack of intensity, it will be discussed more. My opinion is this program needs better consistency in intensity to get to the next level.
                          "Let's make some noise".

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                          • #43
                            I will forward all these posted comments and suggestions to the BU coaching staff, and I'll let you know when I get a response...

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                            • #44
                              Originally posted by Beninator View Post
                              fair enough
                              I think (and hope) that AT will get more minutes with the upcoming games.
                              I think AT showed his drive to get on the court with the way he battled during those last 3 essentially meaningless minutes. I agree that we will be seeing more of him in the very near future. That is if he tries that hard in practice! Sorry, but I agree with the old mantra that practice makes perfect & think the MJ's, Birds and Walter Paytons of the world are proof positive.

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                              • #45
                                Originally posted by tornado View Post
                                I will forward all these posted comments and suggestions to the BU coaching staff, and I'll let you know when I get a response...
                                I am certain that they already have the filing space already prepared
                                for the suggestions!

                                We are fans who care about our team...that's all.
                                Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

                                ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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