Post Game: BU Loses 59-75 @ Mich. St.

[MacabreMob]

Thanks for the links Mike...still searching for the "crap" though. Alls that I read was three well written pieces with facts, opinions and general, information. Kinda like the same stuff I read on this board on a daily basis but with much better grammar, punctuation with some of the same insight but done from guys that have figured out how to get paid to do it. Impressive.

This deserves Post of the Year!

[bu fan 9]

People didn't understand how good Ruffin was until now.

[ER3]

4/22 from the 3, looks like we're not learning that we're not a 3 point shooting team this year.

Wait...We aren't a great shooting team?...but I thought that was a fallacy, and was proven to be incorrect beyond a shadow of a doubt over our past 3 games?

[houstontxbrave]

People didn't understand how good Ruffin was until now.

Or JC... go to scorer when you need one to make a basket to stop momentum. Someone on this team needs to step up and make big shots... We needed a score right before the half, I think we had 3 straight possessions down 5 and never converted. Someone needed to take the ball and make a basket.

Jason is right on... no team can go 59% on 26 attempts on the road or even at home and hope to win a basketball game.. that stuff is just not acceptable.

I would love to see the break down of the game and exactly how many open 3's we missed. Ill guess 10 were uncontested.

[BUFAN]

Just watched the game again...Jim Jackson, one of the announcers said...If your a recruit who likes to shoot the 3...you need to play for Bradley...they shoot the 3...that is their Offense and you should go there! I hope some were listening!

Had them ears first time he said it...

[BUFAN]

4/22 from the 3, looks like we're not learning that we're not a 3 point shooting team this year.

4/22 is awful, we started 2/3, need a little help with the mach...

[BUBraves06]

Just got back from East Lansing about an hour ago. Sooo tired from a lot of traveling this weekend, but it was a great experience for sure. There were alot of things that really disappointed me today, but there were def. some good things as well. I need sleep ... more tomorrow.

[onetuffshot]

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Shooting, both free throws and three's, undoubtedly did us in, as many of you have pointed out. But, to me our biggest weakness was our defense. JL obviously did not believe we could guard them man to man, and had us switching back and forth between a 2-3 and a 1-3-1 with a sprinkling of man. I don't argue with playing a zone against that team. I don't think they liked playing against one, especially in the first half. They did make 19 turnovers, most of them unforced.
But we obviously don't play a very good zone. And all the switching back and forth caused some confusion on our part at times.
But the most glaring weakness, IMHO, is our defensive rebounding. We don't block out at all, even when we are in a man, and when we are in a zone that weaknessis is compounded.
Michigan State was very beatable yesterday. That may have been the worst exhibition I have ever seen an Izzo team display.
We take away all those second shots they got and just come up with a decent job at the free throw line, and the end of the game would have been very interesting.

[lefty]

MSU didn't play all that well in my opinion. They seem to be content jacking up three's and shooting quick shots when they were clearly superior inside.
When they went inside either by pass or drive they were more effective.
They just wore us out in the second half.
Our ft shooting was offset by their countless unforced turnovers

[Da Coach]

Michigan State was very beatable yesterday. That may have been the worst exhibition I have ever seen an Izzo team display.

Beatable, maybe, I agree, but the worst MIchigan State has ever played? I think that is a little exaggerated. MSU shot 47% in the second half and 42% overall, and 9-19 (47%) from three- far from the worst they have ever shot, and not even close to the worst they have played this year (see their stats against Maryland, among other games).
They outrebounded Bradley 49-38, and Bradley has been outrebounding most teams they've played. They made their free throws (80%), and they got very good production from their deep bench.

I thought MSU played well, maybe not the best they could, but they were solid, and they had those big physical forwards, to go along with big, quick, good-shooting guards. That is a very difficult type of team for anyone to beat, let alone a small BU team, missing their top scorer AW, and missing Will Egolf, and with SM playing hurt.

[georgethedog]

Well I am not one of the people that usually complains about Sam. I really wonder how badly he is hurt. That was the worst game I can remember him having in his career. All around, shot wouldn't fall, got the ball taken away several times, just a bad game. That and the free throws really cost us.

Don't get me wrong as I like SM with his constant hustle and toughness, but he thinks he has more ability than he does and constantly gets himself into a position where he can't make a play. Being hurt doesn't make you drive into traffic over and over again losing the ball most of the time--unless you have a headache and can't think straight.

Maybe his injury is hurting his shot? It is flat and has little chance of going in from the angle it is coming toward the basket. He needs coaching from Aaron Zobrist who would give his shot more of a chance of going in because of his high arch. Or, Sam needs to sign up for a physics class and learn the dynamics of a ball going through a hoop as it has a higher probablility of going in if it is coming straight down. His shots are also not "soft" enough for him to get a good bounce. He shoots like he is trying to break the rim! JC had a "soft" shot and he could rim them in every once in a while. Until SM learns not to shot the ball 100 mph with little arch he will never be a consistently good shooter, hurt or not, period.

[onetuffshot]

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Beatable, maybe, I agree, but the worst MIchigan State has ever played? I think that is a little exaggerated. MSU shot 47% in the second half and 42% overall, and 9-19 (47%) from three- far from the worst they have ever shot, and not even close to the worst they have played this year (see their stats against Maryland, among other games).
They outrebounded Bradley 49-38, and Bradley has been outrebounding most teams they've played. They made their free throws (80%), and they got very good production from their deep bench.

I thought MSU played well, maybe not the best they could, but they were solid, and they had those big physical forwards, to go along with big, quick, good-shooting guards. That is a very difficult type of team for anyone to beat, let alone a small BU team, missing their top scorer AW, and missing Will Egolf, and with SM playing hurt.

They shot 47% in the second half, but how many of those were put backs--at least 5. and for some reason the 3's fall more often when they got those second shots.
I've never seen an Izzo team make so many unforced errors.

[squirrel]

They shot 47% in the second half, but how many of those were put backs--at least 5. and for some reason the 3's fall more often when they got those second shots.
I've never seen an Izzo team make so many unforced errors.

I indicated elsewhere that our failure to use our size against MSU would result in the Spartans breaking away with high% 2 pt shots, and we would need to shoot 45% on 3's to make a game out of it if that's how we chose to play. And we chose to play that way and shot 20% and were not competitive, accordingly.

[romar]

Don't get me wrong as I like SM with his constant hustle and toughness, but he thinks he has more ability than he does and constantly gets himself into a position where he can't make a play. Being hurt doesn't make you drive into traffic over and over again losing the ball most of the time--unless you have a headache and can't think straight.

Maybe his injury is hurting his shot? It is flat and has little chance of going in from the angle it is coming toward the basket. He needs coaching from Aaron Zobrist who would give his shot more of a chance of going in because of his high arch. Or, Sam needs to sign up for a physics class and learn the dynamics of a ball going through a hoop as it has a higher probablility of going in if it is coming straight down. His shots are also not "soft" enough for him to get a good bounce. He shoots like he is trying to break the rim! JC had a "soft" shot and he could rim them in every once in a while. Until SM learns not to shot the ball 100 mph with little arch he will never be a consistently good shooter, hurt or not, period.

I mentioned SamM's flat shot on the chat yesterday & someone made the point that maybe he was rushing it a bit - Just like a golf swing you can develop bad habits in a jumpshot and that can come on for any of a number of reasons (injury, rushing it, defense, trying too hard or pressing). I think he had a little bit of DR fever yesterday and wanted to show his leadership instead of just letting the game come to him. Ruff always had his best games when he didn't try to put the team on his shoulders.

I know when I played as a young man if I found myself in a slump I went looking for help - let's hope after watching the tape SM does the same because I think essentially he has the ability to be a good shooter (btw - anyone remember JC's soph year?).

[Rusty 54]

I indicated elsewhere that our failure to use our size against MSU would result in the Spartans breaking away with high% 2 pt shots, and we would need to shoot 45% on 3's to make a game out of it if that's how we chose to play. And we chose to play that way and shot 20% and were not competitive, accordingly.

I'm just trying to see where you are coming from, what kind of lineups do you want us to go big with? SS and DC? SS/DC and AT? Just wondering