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  • #31
    If the Michigan State team that shows up looks anything like the athletic freaks I saw play against OkSt the other day, look out and don't get hurt in the process. But if the MSU team that scored in the low to mid 60's vs Wichita and Maryland shows up then we have a chance with some lights out shooting.

    Hopefully, either DC gets fired up or AT is closer than we think (just like WE a few days ago) and sitting the bench because of conditioning rather than effectiveness.

    But I'm telling you that team that showed up vs OkSt looked like a legit top 5 team. And as good as Theron is, I don't see how he can shut down Morgan all day. Taylor Brown is going to have to play him tough as well.

    We do see them just a few days after playing UNC in Detroit so maybe it's a let down game after a huge win or close heartbreaker.

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    • #32
      Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
      Did everyone notice that we went from 23 up to 13 up in a matter of a couple minutes w/ him on the floor last night?
      I marked it down when WE went out. They went on a 20-7 run just before we made 2 FT's and stopped the bleeding.

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      • #33
        If I remember right Norris and McCain were playing during that stretch as well.
        Thinking is the hardest work, that is why so few people do it. -Henry Ford

        Yeah...I've been in college for a while now and I'm pretty sure that awesomest is not a word. -Andrew E.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Stryker View Post
          If I remember right Norris and McCain were playing during that stretch as well.
          yes they did, however McCain and Norris both contributed during this time w/ assists and points and even defense to an extent, which is more than I can say for the guy who only got points because a guy bumped into him on a steal attempt.

          Please, try not to argue on his behalf...it just makes it seem more illogical when someone does.

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          • #35
            Originally posted by Stryker View Post
            The reason TB is doing what he is doing is because he is NOT playing the 5. He would be invisible at the 5 IMO.
            Agree... I dont see TB at the 5... I want the freshmen to play, but like it or or not, the rotation should be SS starting, DC, and AT.
            Bradley 72 - Illini 68 Final

            ???It??™s awful hard,??™??™ said Illini freshman guard D.J. Richardson, the former Central High School guard who played prep school ball a few miles from here and fought back tears outside the locker room. ???It??™s a hometown thing. It??™s bragging rights.??™

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            • #36
              BTW, if anyone noticed, Michigan State outrebounded one of the top rebounding teams in our conference by 17...

              1 other thing I noticed...they only shot 12 3's and only made 3 for 25%....


              We need to hit the 2-3 zone and play it until they make a few...they've only made 24 3-pt field goals for the season w/ Summers and Thornton greatly inflating the team averages of the poor shooting of the others...

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              • #37
                I don't know if we win this game even if our team is 100% healthy. But let's see if MSU can beat UNC. Then maybe they have that letdown game against us!

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
                  yes they did, however McCain and Norris both contributed during this time w/ assists and points and even defense to an extent, which is more than I can say for the guy who only got points because a guy bumped into him on a steal attempt.

                  Please, try not to argue on his behalf...it just makes it seem more illogical when someone does.
                  I don't anyone on this board is defending DC's play. But I do think it's unfair to blame only him for what happened after Will was injured. One positive thing I will say, is that maybe he's been giving free throw lessons, as our ft percentage has been better the last 3 games and he has been a good ft shooter.
                  What part of illegal don't you understand?

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by MacabreMob View Post
                    I marked it down when WE went out. They went on a 20-7 run just before we made 2 FT's and stopped the bleeding.
                    I tend to feel that the whole team was a little in shock at the loss of WE so suddenly. That combined with ETSU's lack of conscience & nothing to lose by chucking it up attitude had as much to do with their run. As I recall it Pegram was chucking it up like crazy and DC wasn't guarding him. I concede that DC was ineffective at the 5 during their run, but to place the whole blame on him for that mini-run is absolutely ridiculous. Another fact is that BU let little or no air out of the ball on the offensive side and continued to attack with one shot and out instead of working the shot clock a bit.

                    You have to accept DC for what he is, not what you want him to be. He's a slightly more athletic Brandon Heemskerk, but apparently without the drive to become better. This team's offense was more one on one based and put your head down & drive which really exposed his lack of lateral quickness. There is no excuse for the fact that he keeps his hands at his side defensively though. DC will do a serviceable job against similar slower bigs, but big guys with any quickness will expose him immediately. I trust JL will pick the right people to play in the right situations.

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                    • #40
                      I don't know why all the concern about DC starting or getting more minutes because of WE's injury. As foul-prone as he is, his minutes will be limited anyway.

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                      • #41
                        Singh should start

                        he's got the build to at least stay with a center (for a bit)
                        I think if he plays with some fire under his butt...and knows that if he doesn't step up...there is very little 5 production...he oculd be very effective.

                        From what i've seen he's been playing like it's his senior year (good timing right?). and that could be enough to get him goin in the 5 spot.

                        then AT and DC splitting after him

                        but overall I think Singh should start and then give AT some quality learning minutes for the following seasons
                        Gloria: Who's side are you on?
                        Jay: She's my daughter, you're my wife. Let's remember what's important, there's a football game on today

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by BUconnorD View Post
                          Singh should start

                          he's got the build to at least stay with a center (for a bit)
                          I think if he plays with some fire under his butt...and knows that if he doesn't step up...there is very little 5 production...he oculd be very effective.

                          From what i've seen he's been playing like it's his senior year (good timing right?). and that could be enough to get him goin in the 5 spot.

                          then AT and DC splitting after him

                          but overall I think Singh should start and then give AT some quality learning minutes for the following seasons
                          Yes...after 4+ years now its Sam's turn to step up...and I do believe he has it in him to be productive...then again, it leads me to saying that he as well only has so much talent...

                          Thats why I want to see AT, because AT has the most time left here on campus AND he has the most upside to bring to the table...

                          The kid has talent, he just needs to get on the floor to be able to show it.

                          I really hope we get to see him play some quality minutes on Sunday and get some good results on the stat sheet or at least help the team compete for a victory on the road.

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                          • #43
                            Originally posted by SaintLouBrave22 View Post
                            Yes...after 4+ years now its Sam's turn to step up...and I do believe he has it in him to be productive...then again, it leads me to saying that he as well only has so much talent...

                            Thats why I want to see AT, because AT has the most time left here on campus AND he has the most upside to bring to the table...

                            The kid has talent, he just needs to get on the floor to be able to show it.

                            I really hope we get to see him play some quality minutes on Sunday and get some good results on the stat sheet or at least help the team compete for a victory on the road.
                            Oh agreed, but i'd still rather have Singher start...he's played on big stages before and can handle it.

                            Singh and AT splitting bulk of minutes with help from DC when there is a big line out there.

                            but I agree that AT should get some time to help develop
                            Gloria: Who's side are you on?
                            Jay: She's my daughter, you're my wife. Let's remember what's important, there's a football game on today

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                            • #44
                              I'm still going to stick with "season screwed".

                              Expecting a loss like the last time we were there.

                              Sorry, just telling it like it is.

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                              • #45
                                Sob sob sob...



                                C'mon guys...every game is winnable.


                                Stranger things have happened.

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