Fallacies

[BUFAN]

They were picked to finish 8th in their 14-team conference.

Thanks,

[georgethedog]

As I said elsewhere, I just hope we don't have a rash of injuries among Bradley fans who keep jumping off then on the bandwagon.


One other fallacy...
that Jim Les can't coach!
Gimme a break......read what Dave Reynolds said...
they didn't have time to practice nor prepare much for the 3 teams in a row, but they gave up their time on the nice beach to stay at the hotel, review film, and get ready after Monday's loss.
Then they tweaked their offense and defense for the FGCU game and again for the Richmond game and .....

Bradley clearly was not only the MOST well prepared team last night, but they were also the best coached team. Jim did a great job with substitutes, and with the switching man/zone defenses that we alternated and played which totally confused a GOOD Richmond team!
And he did a good job working to penetrate which then also opened up many GOOD outside shots!

He had them prepared for 1 1/2 games. The other 1 1/2 games they were not prepared (I add the 1/2 because they did not look prepared for at least 1/2 of the Gulf Coast game), so that's 50%. I have never said he was a bad coach, but a better coach would have had Will E playing more from the beginning of the season. Will E did not just "get it" overnight. He should have had significant minutes in the preseason games and the other early games. That was one of my complaints about our coach. The other is not playing enough bigs. I will continue to stand by that. I would like to see AT on the floor to see what he can do. Who knows, maybe he will shine like Will E? We won't know until he plays. Those are my opinions, like them or not.

[bigdaddystuck]

Uh its a message board, where many people vent their frustrations and hopefully are allowed to do so.

Totally agree!

[lake Camelot]

Don't agree on the shooting

I have not posted anything about our performance a couple games ago. This is because I tend to over-react and feel too discouraged. I also still had hope this can be a good team down the road(When we get Warren back and hopefully another player).
One good game does not convince me we are a good shooting team though. I think we still can be an OK shooting team if we get Warren and the mid term addition to go along with maturing of TB,DN, and CR. I am not convinced that DD is a good outside shooter even though people say he is in practice. He is a good valuable all-around player though.
Anyway I think one very good performance is being way overvalued by you. Again I will repeat I think this still may be a top three Valley team by year end. The scary thing is only a top one Valley team may be going to the tournament the way the Valley looks so far.

[Chico]

Coach, I know everyone who posted those remarks hope they are wrong. But they were posting after 2 bad games and you after 1 good game. Let's all hope there are more good than bad and we can all post positive remarks game after game. I felt so much better after the Richmond game.

[Da Coach]

I am not criticizing or trying to call anyone out. I am happy this site gives fans a chance to vent and post opinions. And note that nobody's opinions were censored after Monday's game.
I just hope we don't go quite so far in being critical every time they have a bad game. This team will have more ups and downs since they are young, and there are significant injury problems involving some of our key players.

[SFP]

I'm cranking up the bandwagon and resupplying the cool-aid guys. I will always be pulling for my guys regardless of how painful it may become occasionally and try to look at the glass 1/2 full. For better or worse there are guys on this site that look at things a little different and I might even occasionally post a few things or two pointing them out. What I want to say, this is what makes this board great! We can contribute what we feel and believe as long as it is thought out and at the same time learn a few things.

Well back to the bandwagon and I'm loading a larger broadband pipe so I can see the games clearer.

BTW..I hope everyone is enjoying their Thanksgiving and here's to everyone remembering how truly blessed we are in living in such a great country and or being affiliated to BU, an outstanding higher ed. institution that truly produces outstanding citizens IMHO.

[Grassman]

Everyone wants to enjoy a victory and savor it for as long as possible. I don't want to spoil the party but, the team they beat was a bunch of 6'10" guys who had been running up and down the floor for three days. They were not that quick to begin with and after three days of fla heat were not able to get to our shooters. They made us look good just like we made UMKC and FGCU look good with our poor D. Richmond will not be a contender in their con., lucky to be .500.

Those 6'10' Guys running up and down the court only lost to Syracuse @ The Cuse by 5. That night, they really looked pretty good.
The Cuse beat Florida pretty handily, a team we lost to.
I do not know if that means anything, but I think Richmond might suprise a few people this year!

[tornado]

Hey---just to show how down just about everyone in the Valley is DOWN on their OWN TEAM--

here's a challenge.... I will post some comments...
guess which Valley team's message board it comes from...
each one describing how their team's fans feel about their team.

--"Coaching is bad, really bad.
Change the system if its not working.
Without naming names, two of our seniors should probably not play...
Still have not recruited a true scorer or pure shooter...
Defense is uglier than ever..."

mouse over HERE to read where that comes from>>The saluki board



--"the issues this team exhibits can be cured by a serious attitude adjustment."
"I also hate losing to hyphenated schools. That goes for directional schools too."
"I think this team's biggest problem...is chemistry"
"I put (this loss) completely on the coach. We have a lot of talent and they aren't being coached."


mouse over HERE to read where that comes from>>The Bluejay board


--"our team blows"


mouse over HERE to read where that comes from>>The saluki board



--"I didn't think it was possible to find a worse D1 coach than our coach"
"Hiring (him) was a gigantic mistake"
"They weren't inept."
"What a disppointment. Did anyone see any semblance of a coherent offense?"

mouse over HERE to read where that comes from>>The Drake board



--and this one is from just a few minutes ago!!
"we will be good this year"
"I'm very proud of this team and very confident in the future"

mouse over HERE to read where that comes from>>The Shockers' board, even though their team
barely lost to Georgetown, while the starters shot a combined 8-33 (24%)
and the entire team shot 17-61 (27.9%)


Looks to me the boo-birds are out in force everywhere in the Valley!

[georgethedog]

The is a connection between the MVC being ranked #16 in RPI and what is really going on, huh?

[MacabreMob]

The is a connection between the MVC being ranked #16 in RPI and what is really going on, huh?

It's way too early to be looking at RPI's.

But all that aside.... IMO, the MVC is gonna be a 1 bid league.

(unless the MVC champ has a great resume and has mopped the MVC and loses in St Louis)

[tornado]

my point was to show that even at the stronger programs in the Valley like SIU and Creighton, they are getting
ripped by their own fans. Drake had a great year, and now they are starting over with a new coach, and one game
into the season fans are ripping on them as well. I guess fans have a sense of entitlement and believe the program centers on THEM, thus the expectations.

[BU ICEMAN]

I guess fans have a sense of entitlement and believe the program centers on THEM, thus the expectations.

Fans ARE an integral component of the team, you're **** right they should have a sense of entitlement and expectations.

What is any team without its fans? Without fans, the players play only for themselves. Without fans, revenue streams dry up, then the teams disappear.

This board sure as hell wouldn't exist and none of us would be on here checking the site way more than we all probably should if we didn't have a sense of entitlement and expectations. We wouldn't spout off after every game, positive or negative.

Fans may not be at the direct center, but they're about as close as you can get after the players and coaches.

That might just be the biggest "fallacy" in this thread!

[ER3]

Fans ARE an integral component of the team, you're **** right they should have a sense of entitlement and expectations.

What is any team without its fans? Without fans, the players play only for themselves. Without fans, revenue streams dry up, then the teams disappear.

This board sure as hell wouldn't exist and none of us would be on here checking the site way more than we all probably should if we didn't have a sense of entitlement and expectations. We wouldn't spout off after every game, positive or negative.

Fans may not be at the direct center, but they're about as close as you can get after the players and coaches.

That might just be the biggest "fallacy" in this thread!

Fantastic point.

[Chico]

If it wasn't for the loyal fans who have been supporting the Braves, and putting 10000 plus in the Civic Center for years, there wouldn't be a basketball program as well off as it is today. We all consider the Braves OUR team.