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Old 11-05-2017, 07:02 AM
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another MVC preview - no a very good one..
https://www.vsin.com/missouri-valley...issouri-state/
There are so many things wrong with that MVC preview I don't even know where to start.
They pick Illinois State 4th and have Zach Copeland as an "instant impact player" (he is not even enrolled at ISU).

They pick UNI 3rd, but make these ridiculous claims:
Jacobson has tried to mold 6-foot-7 stretch player Klint Carlson into a similar stretch player to what (Jeremy) Morgan was... (really? Jacobson considers Klint Carlson to be a similar player to Morgan?)
[i]Carlson's struggles leave the team relying on North Dakota transfer Adam McDermott and transfer Miles Wentzien to be deep threats...[/I] (Maybe McDermott, but Wentzien is a former Division II player who is a walk-on at UNI, I doubt he'll even see much floor time)

For Southern Illinois, they say:
It will be a big-man dominant team again this year with 6-foot-6 Sean O'Brien running the show. (Sean O'Brien was not really a true "big man", and he graduated last year and is not part of this year's team)

For Bradley, who they pick 8th, they say this:
But this team has many of the tools needed to reach 20 wins and be one of the top teams in the conference, but until Wardle finds a point guard, the Braves will continue to be a sub-.500 club. (Brown, Hodgson, and Lundy are all point guards)

There are many more mistakes, and misspellings of names, and no mention of the serious injuries and some of the roster changes that have happened.
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Old 11-07-2017, 08:18 AM
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Article from Jim Benson of the Bloomington Pantagraph (the ISU beat writer) about the Missouri Valley's chances of getting more than 1 NCAA bid this year and in the future-
http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/col...f163caec3.html

Nice summary of the current issues in the MVC, but it seems to me he is trying make the case that all the other MVC teams are to blame for not pulling their weight as an excuse for ISU not getting an NCAA bid last year. Though the MVC did slip to 12th in conference RPI last season, the real reason ISU did not get an NCAA bid was ISU's poor non-conference schedule, and the fact they didn't bother to show up for the MVC Tournament championship game and got embarrassed and annihilated in a blow-out loss to Wichita State.

Then when they had the chance to redeem themselves in the NIT, they lost on their home court to Central Florida, the 4th place team in the AAC. The fact is, ISU did not deserve an NCAA bid.



Note that Barry Hinson is interviewed, and says the solution is to expand the MVC and take in more teams, and play more conference games:
"Every coach in our league is in agreement and we know where this is headed. We have to expand," said Southern Illinois coach Barry Hinson. "We have to go to 20 conference games.

"I don't know who that is. I don't know who the best fit is. I'm excited about Valpo in our league. I think they add to our league. It was a great decision by our conference, but I think you need to add two more teams."


IMO, that is the worst thing they could do. How does inviting more lower-level teams into the MVC, then playing even more games against those lower ranked teams going to embellish anyone's NCAA resume? Recall that the other school that was a finalist to be added to the MVC was UW-Milwaukee. OMG, they were the last place team in the Horizon League with an RPI of 260! How in the heck is that kind of expansion move going to benefit the other teams in the MVC and help get more at-large bids? Fortunately, the MVC officials were smart enough to select Valparaiso, a far better program. But they are still exploring expansion, and the people at Milwaukee are expecting a bid soon.
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Old 11-07-2017, 12:11 PM
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Simply put, Creighton and Wichita's success outgrew the Valley. With the purposeful limitation on at large berths imposed by the Power 5 conferences and the weakened ranking of the Valley, there may be merit in establishing a separate post season championship tournament for mid-major schools similar to the FCS division in football. As it stands now, NCAA tournament participation is largely limited to winning the conference tournament, and even then being relegated to a low seeding. Mid-Majors in the country unite, you have nothing to lose but your chains.
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Old 11-07-2017, 01:12 PM
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Simply put, Creighton and Wichita's success outgrew the Valley. With the purposeful limitation on at large berths imposed by the Power 5 conferences and the weakened ranking of the Valley, there may be merit in establishing a separate post season championship tournament for mid-major schools similar to the FCS division in football. As it stands now, NCAA tournament participation is largely limited to winning the conference tournament, and even then being relegated to a low seeding. Mid-Majors in the country unite, you have nothing to lose but your chains.
Yes, you are right. However, if the non Power-5 conferences rebelled, withdrew from the NCAA Tournament and held their own tournament, the networks would treat it like the CBI, and give it virtually no coverage. The lack of TV would result in no revenues for the schools or conferences (just like the CBI and CIY do), and that would hurt the mid-majors in a big way.

The mid-majors still outnumber the Power-5 schools, so they should be able to find a way to legislate within the NCAA to reverse the trend that favors the big schools so much.
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Old 11-07-2017, 01:35 PM
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..Barry Hinson is interviewed, and says the solution is to expand the MVC and take in more teams, and play more conference games:
"Every coach in our league is in agreement ...." said Southern Illinois coach Barry Hinson. "We have to go to 20 conference games."
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Every coach is in agreement? Then who is the next teams the MVC adds?
Belmont? IPFW? Milwaukee? UIC? Oakland? Detroit? Middle Tennessee? Green Bay? Saint Louis? Denver? Murray State?
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Evansville has announced they plan to retire the #50 jersey of Marty Simmons, the current head coach. He played for Evansville for 2 seasons from 1986-1988, after transferring from Indiana.
https://twitter.com/UEAthletics/stat...74700055257088

He scored 1,265 points in his 2 seasons at Evansville, averaging 22.4 points per game his junior season, and 25.9 points per game his senior season.
He never played in the Missouri Valley Conference, since Evansville did not join the MVC until the 1994-95 season. They were members of the old Midwestern Collegiate Conference (forerunner of the current Horizon League).

Bradley played non-conference games against Evansville in both seasons that Marty Simmons was playing at Evansville (1986-87 season, and 1987-88 season), and the games featured 2 of the highest scoring players in the NCAA, Evansville's Marty Simmons and Bradley's Hersey Hawkins. Evansville beat Bradley in Evansville on Dec. 22, 1986, 77-68 (Hersey Hawkins 23 points), but Bradley returned the favor defeating the Aces on Dec. 22, 1987, 93-80 (Hersey Hawkins 32 points) (attendance was 9,879 for an early-season non-conference game- how things have changed thanks to JG & MC).
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A lot of people here probably are too young to remember Marty, and you can't tell much by looking at him now...

but he was really a tremendous player and prolific scorer. If you could combine Hersey, Doug McDermott and Colt Ryan - that would be Marty...
Unfortunately - like Jimmer Fredette, Marty wasn't athletic enough and maybe not tall enough to be as successful in the NBA- but no denying it, he was a great college player...who never had the benefit of top talent alongside him on the court so he did what he did against defenses that were aimed completely at stopping him with double & triple teams
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Some unpleasant news for Valparaiso and their fans-
https://twitter.com/NWIOren/status/928005377085538304

Valparaiso’s Jaume Sorolla and Joe Burton will both miss first two games of the year for violation of team rules.


Joe Burton is a 6'6" redshirt junior guard who transferred from Oklahoma State and was projected to be a key player and starter this season. He started both of Valparaiso's exhibition games, and scored 11 points in their blowout 117-69 win against Robert Morris and he started and had 10 points against Chicago State.

Jaume Sorolla is a 7' sophomore center who is also projected to be a key player for them this season. He was a part-time starter last season as a freshman, and started both of Valpo's exhibition games so far this season. In the game against Robert Morris he had 11 points and 5 rebounds, and in the game against Chicago State he had 6 points and 6 rebounds.

Valparaiso's first 2 regular season games (the 2 games these players will miss) are a home game Friday, Nov. 10 against Division III North Park University, and a home game Monday, Nov. 13 against NAIA Trinity Christian College. So these suspensions will not be a problem for Valpo. They will still start the season 2-0.
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Evansville has announced they plan to retire the #50 jersey of Marty Simmons, the current head coach. He played for Evansville for 2 seasons from 1986-1988, after transferring from Indiana.
https://twitter.com/UEAthletics/stat...74700055257088
Evansville is planning on honoring several others this season in addition to Marty Simmons. A total of 8 former players and coaches will be honored with jerseys retired or banners hung in their rafters-
http://gopurpleaces.com/news/2017/11...tirements.aspx

Marcus Wilson- The 1999 MVC Player of the Year will have his #5 jersey retired.

Andy Elkins- will have his #31 jersey retired

Scott Shreffler- will have his #20 jersey retired

Brad Leaf- who played for Evansville in the early 1980's, will have his #15 jersey retired

Hugh Ahlering- who played for Evansville in the 1950's will have his #20 jersey retired

Jim Crews- former Evansville head coach will also be "recognized in the rafters"

Arad McCutchan- legendary head coach from 1946-1977 will be honored in their rafters
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